1116593 - empty trees have no visual indication of the current focus (loss of focus) (21(c), B02)

Status: NEW

(Toolkit :: General, defect)

Description

[norman.robinson.at.dhs]

Attachment: Certificate manager does not provide visual focus. (21(c), B02)

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/31.0
Build ID: 20141011074935

Steps to reproduce:

Location: From the browser menu, select Tools>Options. From the Options window click on the Advanced icon, then on the Certificates tab. From the Certificates tab, click on the View Certificates button. From the Certificates Manager window, select any tab.  

http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/DHS%20Section%20508%20Compliance%20Test%20Process%20for%20Applications%203.3.pdf#page=23


Actual results:

no visual indication of the current focus (loss of focus) 




Expected results:

Visual focus should have been provided.

Comment 1

[Dana Keeler (she/her) (use needinfo) [:keeler] (on leave)]

I think this is a general toolkit problem. See for example the Offline Data dialog in Preferences -> Advanced -> Network -> Offline Web Content and User Data -> Exceptions...

Comment 2

[:Gijs (he/him)]

David, what would be the best way to deal with this? I'm tempted to suggest the tree shouldn't be focusable if it doesn't have any items... is that wrong? How do native apps deal with these situations?

Comment 3

[:Gijs (he/him)]

(In reply to :Gijs Kruitbosch from comment #2)
> David, what would be the best way to deal with this? I'm tempted to suggest
> the tree shouldn't be focusable if it doesn't have any items... is that
> wrong? How do native apps deal with these situations?

Now with needinfo (thanks, mid-air) to a different david :-)

Comment 4

[David Bolter [:davidb] (NeedInfo me for attention)]

(In reply to :Gijs Kruitbosch from comment #2)
> David, what would be the best way to deal with this? I'm tempted to suggest
> the tree shouldn't be focusable if it doesn't have any items... is that
> wrong? How do native apps deal with these situations?

I think that is fine. (I wouldn't worry too much about empty native tree behaviour). The key point is that whenever a sighted keyboard user looks at the screen, focus should visibly be somewhere.