1403445 - Add better UI indicators that cookie settings were changed from the default.

Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME

(Firefox :: Site Identity, defect, P3)

Description

[promeneur]

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
Build ID: 20170807000000

Steps to reproduce:

i read a page. in this page there is a rectangle to display a video. i get a black rectangle instead of video.

see 
http://www.lemonde.fr/disparitions/article/2017/09/26/le-chanteur-gerard-palaprat-est-mort_5191591_3382.html

or

http://videos.leparisien.fr/video/des-navettes-sans-chauffeurs-roulent-a-rungis-25-09-2017-x61xl4n

if i select "display this frame only" then i can see the video.

with all modules inactivated then same problem.

Comment 1

[Anthony Jones (:ajones, :kentuckyfriedtakahe, :k17e)]

(In reply to promeneur from comment #0)
> with all modules inactivated then same problem.

Your system doesn't appear to support AAC and/or H.264. You can confirm this by looking at https://www.youtube.com/html5

Comment 2

[promeneur]

i made a test at https://www.youtube.com/html5

FF is completely compliant

i assume FF uses gstreamer. i checked that i can play mp4 video with dragon player or vlc. all of them use gstreamer.

libfaac0, libfaad2 are installed.

Comment 3

[promeneur]

you read badly the description

"if i select "display this frame only" then i can see the video."

Comment 4

[Anthony Jones (:ajones, :kentuckyfriedtakahe, :k17e)]

(In reply to promeneur from comment #2)
> i assume FF uses gstreamer. i checked that i can play mp4 video with dragon
> player or vlc. all of them use gstreamer.

Firefox does not use gstreamer.

(In reply to promeneur from comment #3)
> you read badly the description
> 
> "if i select "display this frame only" then i can see the video."

Sorry, my mistake. I can't reproduce the issue in 52 or 58 on Linux. Can you try safe mode https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode

What Linux distro are you using?

Comment 5

[promeneur]

as i said in description "with all modules inactivated then same problem."

i found it.

i must set to "always" "i accept third party cookies" to play video.

in the url address field in the "i" menu we need an option to switch between "never", "from visited" and "always".

thanks

Comment 6

[Johann Hofmann [:johannh]]

:k17e, can you please elaborate on what "Improve cookie UI" is supposed to mean and then also update the bug title to be more specific? In it's current state this bug looks slated to be closed as INCOMPLETE.

Thank you.

Comment 7

[promeneur]

(In reply to Johann Hofmann [:johannh] from comment #6)
> :k17e, can you please elaborate on what "Improve cookie UI" is supposed to
> mean and then also update the bug title to be more specific? In it's current
> state this bug looks slated to be closed as INCOMPLETE.
> 
> Thank you.

please read carefully the "description" of the problem and the solution i found in comment #5

"in the url address field in the "i" menu we need an option to switch between "never", "from visited" and "always"." for parameter "accept tiers cookie".

Comment 8

[Johann Hofmann [:johannh]]

(In reply to promeneur from comment #7)
> (In reply to Johann Hofmann [:johannh] from comment #6)
> > :k17e, can you please elaborate on what "Improve cookie UI" is supposed to
> > mean and then also update the bug title to be more specific? In it's current
> > state this bug looks slated to be closed as INCOMPLETE.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> 
> please read carefully the "description" of the problem and the solution i
> found in comment #5
> 
> "in the url address field in the "i" menu we need an option to switch
> between "never", "from visited" and "always"." for parameter "accept tiers
> cookie".

So, just that I understand this correctly, you changed a global cookie setting in preferences, causing a badly written site to break, and now you'd like to expose this setting somewhere else in Firefox UI? I don't think that's a course of action I'd like to support.

Comment 9

[promeneur]

(In reply to Johann Hofmann [:johannh] from comment #8)

> So, just that I understand this correctly, you changed a global cookie
> setting in preferences, causing a badly written site to break, and now you'd
> like to expose this setting somewhere else in Firefox UI? I don't think
> that's a course of action I'd like to support.

i don't understand your answer.

- year after year password manager is adapted to badly written login procedure site
- if i inactivate flashplayer there is a button to manage activate/inactivate state for site using flashplayer.
- if i choose "no track" i have an option in the menu "locker" to manage this parameter

my wish does not seem extraordinary.

Comment 10

[Johann Hofmann [:johannh]]

(In reply to promeneur from comment #9)
> (In reply to Johann Hofmann [:johannh] from comment #8)
> 
> > So, just that I understand this correctly, you changed a global cookie
> > setting in preferences, causing a badly written site to break, and now you'd
> > like to expose this setting somewhere else in Firefox UI? I don't think
> > that's a course of action I'd like to support.
> 
> i don't understand your answer.
> 
> - year after year password manager is adapted to badly written login
> procedure site
> - if i inactivate flashplayer there is a button to manage
> activate/inactivate state for site using flashplayer.
> - if i choose "no track" i have an option in the menu "locker" to manage
> this parameter
> 
> my wish does not seem extraordinary.

You can use the page info window to manage cookie settings for specific websites (Tools -> Page Info).

Global settings are not exposed in the site identity panel, because that panel is specific to the site you're currently viewing.

I concede that there are problems around communicating the fact that cookie settings might cause this website to malfunction, which is especially relevant since I believe we'd like to roll out experiments that change these settings by default.

Comment 11

[Luke Crouch [:groovecoder]]

To summarize ...

To make embedded dailymotion.com videos play with network.cookieBehavior=1, one must:

1. Visit www.dailymotion.com
2. Open Tools -> Page Info
3. Select "Permissions"
4. Scroll down to "Set Cookies"
5. Un-check "Use default"

A UI experiment to make this process smoother could be a privacy warning modal on top of the iframe element. (Like DuckDuckGo does before it plays videos in Private Browsing windows) ...

"Dailymotion does not let you watch videos anonymously. As such, watching Dailymotion videos here will be tracked by Dailymotion.

[Watch Here] [Watch on Dailymotion]"

[Watch Here] - allow Dailymotion to set cookies (temporarily?), reload the iframe element, (delete the cookies set by Dailymotion?)
[Watch on Dailymotion] - open the embedded element in a new tab (cookies will be first party)

Comment 12

[Johann Hofmann [:johannh]]

Leaving this in Site Identity because I can't really think of a better component right now. Feel free to move if you do.

Comment 13

[Anthony Jones (:ajones, :kentuckyfriedtakahe, :k17e)]

(In reply to Johann Hofmann [:johannh] from comment #6)
> :k17e, can you please elaborate on what "Improve cookie UI" is supposed to
> mean and then also update the bug title to be more specific? In it's current
> state this bug looks slated to be closed as INCOMPLETE.

Sorry about such a poor description. I don't recall what I was thinking at the time other than making it easier for users to diagnose this kind of problem.

Comment 14

[Johann Hofmann [:johannh]]

This has sort of happened with the new content blocking UI...