172130 - Ctrl+Shift+something keycombination is unfortunate

Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 186789

(Core :: DOM: UI Events & Focus Handling, enhancement)

Description

[Mirek]

Ctrl+Shift+something keycombination to invoke actions is unfortunate since the
Ctrl+Shift can be reserved keypress combination in Windows to switch keyboards.
Ideally, Mozilla should allow the user to define user-specified key combination
that replaces the [Ctrl+Shift] part (or even any sequence). For example, insted
of [Ctrl+Shift]+L the user can define the sequence to be, say, [Alt+Shift]+L or
[Ctrl+F1]+L. 
In this respect, I would refer to WordPerfect "keyboard" versatility; in WP the
user can completely modify "hotkeys" that invoke particular actions.

Comment 1

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

we already have an RFE on fully customizable keyboard bindings... See also

http://mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html#keys

Comment 2

[Chris Lyon]

->keyboard navigation

Comment 3

[Aaron Leventhal]

This is interesting issue to bring up -- what do you mean switch keyboards.
Switch layouts on the same keyboard? How can I try that.

Anyway, if this is an RFE for customizeable key bindings, then it's a dup of bug
57805.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 57805 ***

Comment 4

[Mirek]

Yes, a part of the RFE is a dupe of bug 57805. Sigh. Reopening for discussion of
the "switching keyboard layouts".

Basically, it would require to be able to store/load several independent
keyboard layouts. The attachements show possible two menus (the first one allows
to select particular keyboard layouts and create new layout out of already
existing one; the second menu allows and to bind actions and keystrokes for
particular keyboard layout - which is actually the bug 57805). The key actions
and keyboard names are just illustrative.

In practice, if we introduce some kind of "macro"action, then one of the
bindings offered could be "load <keyboard name>". However, I feel that this
would be too complicated to implement. Therefore, a selection from the menu can
be a reasonable solution to implement this feature.

In case this feature seems appealing, would suggest to change the summary
accordingly to "RFE: multiple independet keyboard layouts"

Comment 5

[Mirek]

Attachment: Selecting/creating new keyboard menu

Comment 6

[Mirek]

Attachment: Sample menu to bind keys and actions, keys and macros etc.

Comment 7

[Prognathous]

Bug 186789 also seems to point a similar problem ("Ctrl+Shift Shortcuts in
Mozilla conflict with ISO 14755 Input methods").

> Ctrl+Shift can be reserved keypress combination in Windows to switch keyboards

I believe that Alt+Shift is used for switching keyboards, while Ctrl+Shift is
used for switching from RTL to LTR input (on BiDi-enabled versions of Windows).

Prog.

Comment 8

[Mirek]

> I believe that Alt+Shift is used for switching keyboards...

Windows NT uses "left Alt+****" to switch keyboards as default configuration;
the second Windows option is "Ctrl+Shift" (which I prefer in order to prevent
accidental Alt-menu invoking actions). 

Comment 9

[Prognathous]

Like *many* similar reports, this is indeed a dupe of bug 186789. Marking as such.

Keyboard layout customizations should probably be suggested elsewhere, e.g. as a
comment in Bug 57805.

Prog.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 186789 ***