Since Phoenix is a redesign of the UI, maybe we could fix a strange decision in Mozilla. That is to place the Preferences item in the Edit menu. In almost every program I know of in Windows, the Preferences (or Options, as it's normally called) is placed at the bottom of the tools menu. List of programs that I've seen that has Preferences/Settings/Options under Tools: Windows Explorer / IE Office (all versions I've seen) Windows Media Player SmartFTP Texturizer (my own program, hehe) Windows Movie Maker Microsoft Visual Studio Outlook Express Grokster RealOne Player Hmm.. that's about all programs I have installed. Anyway, it seems to be the standard, at least on the Windows platform. I don't remember where Konqueror places it's settings.
I notice this has been done as of the October 7 build. Thank you. Before this bug is closed, would it be too much to ask you to rename it to "Options" as in most other Windows apps? The dialog box title bar would also have to be changed from "Preferences" to "Options".
Interesting how this bug is fixed and still unconfirmed! :) Changing summary as per comment 1 and leaving it open until developers decide.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
Summary: Move Preferences to the Tools menu → Rename Preferences to Options
Not in the plans.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 16 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
*** Bug 174480 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Why not in the plans? Tools > Options is present in many applications. I can't think of one that has Tools > Preferences.
Dean, I want this changed as much as you do, but I also have to be honest and say that there are a few non-MS programs that actually calls it Preferences instead of Options: * RealOne Player Hmm that's the only one I could think of.
Opera 6 and Photoshop 5 use "Preferences". It's placed under the "File" Menu, which makes the most sense, in my opinion. Flash MX also uses "Preferences".
Reopening bug since Ben Goodger has fixed this.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---
Assignee: blaker → ben
Status: REOPENED → NEW
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 16 years ago → 16 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Almost, but the accesskey needs to be 'O' instead of 'o'.
Changed it to 'O'.
Although this is fixed, I should point out that Phoenix is both a Windows and a Linux app, and Linux apps frequently have Preferences menus rather than Options menus. Not being familiar with the build process, would it be possible to have the Windows builds use Options and the Linux builds use Preferences?
Was that a joke? Why put extra effort in making it different in Linux?
http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsview2.cgi?diff_mode=context&whitespace_mode=show&subdir=mozilla/browser/base/locale&command=DIFF_FRAMESET&file=browser.dtd&rev1=1.48&rev2=1.49&root=/cvsroot http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsview2.cgi?diff_mode=context&whitespace_mode=show&subdir=mozilla/browser/base/locale&command=DIFF_FRAMESET&file=browser.dtd&rev1=1.49&rev2=1.50&root=/cvsroot v.
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
Please reverse this code. You list almost only Micosoft products as examples of "Tools | Options" as if that were a good reason. Let's not copy Microsoft here. Are the program settings or preferences really a "tool"? I don't think so. Counter-reasons are the better-than-MS programs (that I use): Adobe Acrobat - Edit | Preferences Corel WordPerfect Office - Tools | Settings Lotus Notes - File | Preferences Lotus Organizer - File | User Setup Total Commander - Configuration | Options IrfanView - Options | Properties MicroStation (CAD) - Workspace |Preferences
And you only list applications that are less-frequently used that MS apps, or have extremely confusing menus (IrfanView).
This bug is verified and approved by drivers of mozilla.org. Rant about the decision will not change anything. Please take your discussion to the MozillaZine threads. Thank you.
david: um, excuse me, but i don't see a single stamp from anything resembling a driver in this bug. you're welcome to tell people to rant elsewhere, but please don't misrepresent a bug or drivers. [to everyone else: this is not saying that drivers or staff don't approve of the mozilla/browser module owner(s)' decissions. further: drivers currently manage seamonkey, as such the people who count wrt whether a change to mozilla/browser is ok are staff (not drivers) and their delegate(s) the module owner(s) both of whom seem to be undisturbed by the current course.]
Taking QA Contact as designated owner of Firebird-Menus. Sorry for bugspam.
QA Contact: asa → bugzilla
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