17608 - 'Print Setup' should be 'Page Setup'

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(SeaMonkey :: General, defect, P3)

Description

[cpratt]

Build ID: 1999102908
Platform: Windows 98

To reproduce:
- Launch the browser
- Drop down the File menu

Result: There is an item that reads 'Print Setup' with an accelerator of 'r'.

Expected result: This should read 'Page Setup' and have an accelerator of 'u'.

German - if you decide to go with the 'Print Setup', it would be super if you
could at least change the accelerator to 'u' to make it easier on us Windows
users! Thanks!

Comment 1

[shuang (gone)]

re-assign to german to fix it.

Comment 2

[german]

Page Setup is fine.
Is the mnemonic 'u' really the one we want? MS Word and IE use it, but MS Paint
and Notepad and other built-in Windows utilities use 't'.

Comment 3

[cpratt]

Although I no longer work in QA, my feeling is that Office 2000 / IE 5.01 are
the applications to follow, and not Paint/Notepad/etc as those are not used as
frequently by 'end-users' as are O2K/IE. claudius?

Comment 4

[Claudius Gayle]

I'm no windows user so I don't have an inherent 'feel' for which we should use. If MS isn't
even consistent with their approach how can we compare to them? FWIW, Nav4 uses 'g' as
the accelerator. I vote for backwards compatibility if possible and logical.

Comment 5

[cpratt]

I'm still rooting for 'u' as it's what's used by nearly every commonly used
Windows app. 'g' is just bizarre - yeah, that's what they used in 4.x, but some
mistakes are best left behind us. :)

Comment 6

[leger]

Moving all UE/UI bugs to new component: User Interface: Design Feedback
UE/UI component will be deleted.

Comment 7

[shuang (gone)]

Move to M18.

Comment 8

[jglick]

I just confirmed with German, the correct term is "Page Setup" with the "u" 
underlined.

Please assign to the correct engineer so this can get implemented.  Shouldn't 
this be a global overlay?

Comment 9

[don]

Move to M21 target milestone.

Comment 10

[Blake Ross]

I'll try to work on this.  We all agree that only win32 should change to Page 
Setup and have an accelerator of u, and mac, and unix will keep Print Setup 
with an r...correct?

Comment 11

[Matthew T (active 1999-2002)]

Blake, all platforms should have `Page Setup', not just Windows. `Page Setup' has 
been the standard wording on Mac OS for >10 years.

Comment 12

[Blake Ross]

I just said that because that seemed to be the general consensus here.  Having 
it consistent across all the platforms would be easier to implement, though.  
German, Vera - what's the deal here?   Tell me what needs to be done so I can 
do it.  

I still see modern Windows apps that use Print Setup... (AOL, for example).  
All depends on what the dialog is actually going to do, really.  Will it be 
more geared towards various printer setup options, or primarily page setup 
options (i.e. page size, orientation, etc.)?  Since the dialog will handle most 
of the same stuff across various platforms, I'd think a cross-platform solution 
with a consistent naming scheme would be best.  But again, I defer to german or 
vera.

Comment 13

[verah (gone)]

I'm afraid I don't have much to add -- I've noticed a lack of consistency on 
both platforms. In general it feels to me like "Print Setup" refers to printing 
settings, and "Page Setup" refers to things like paper size and orientation as 
Blake noted. So I'd go with "Page Setup," and the "u" underlined. I'll check 
this out on the Mac tomorrow, though, and ask some Mac people.

Comment 14

[Blake Ross]

don, stealing this if you don't mind.

Comment 15

[Blake Ross]

vera: any update regarding the text used on mac?

I'd like to check this in...waiting for approval...

Comment 16

[verah (gone)]

As far as I can determine, "Print Setup" isn't used on the Mac, and there is no 
keyboard shortcut for "Page Setup." I think you can go ahead with "Page Setup," 
with the "u" underlined.

Sorry about the delay... I've been on vacation! :-)

Comment 17

[Blake Ross]

Fix checked in...still trying to resolve why the item in mailnews has no 
accesskey.

Comment 18

[Zach Lipton [:zach]]

Chaning the qa contact on these bugs to me. MPT will be moving to the 
owner of this component shortly. I would like to thank him for all his hard 
work as he moves roles in mozilla.org...Yada, Yada, Yada...