slow startup on first open Firefox ESR 115.12
Categories
(WebExtensions :: Untriaged, defect, P3)
Tracking
(Not tracked)
People
(Reporter: alannsandiego, Unassigned)
References
(Blocks 1 open bug)
Details
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/115.0
Steps to reproduce:
Since Firefox ESR 115.12 updated Firefox with extensions takes 12 seconds to start the first time, new tabs or windows not a problem. However since Firefox is the default browser and not running until started, start time is a problem, cannot type text until 12 seconds. https://snipboard.io/QF0ERT.jpg
In troubleshooting mode without extension it does start faster but the extension was not a problem before your update.
Actual results:
First startup of Firefox ESR 115.12 always 12 second about every time.
I tried to test the startup speed but was unable to, say cannot find profile for this tab. https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/performance/reporting_a_performance_problem.html
https://profiler.firefox.com/docs/#/./guide-getting-started
https://profiler.firefox.com/
I found a test but I could not get it to work, it say cannot find profile, and cannot load profile in 30 seconds etc.
Expected results:
First startup of Firefox ESR 115.12 should take no more than 2 seconds at the most.
Comment 1•1 year ago
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The Bugbug bot thinks this bug should belong to the 'WebExtensions::Untriaged' component, and is moving the bug to that component. Please correct in case you think the bot is wrong.
Comment 2•1 year ago
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Since this seems to be a startup performance issue, you should set the MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP=1 environment variable before starting Firefox, as mentioned at https://profiler.firefox.com/docs/#/./guide-startup-shutdown
Have you tried this in order to capture a performance profile?
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Comment 3•1 year ago
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I do not know how to set environment variables and this tool did not work at all I got these several errors.
https://snipboard.io/XiOa0p.jpg
https://snipboard.io/TUfuvw.jpg
https://snipboard.io/MTXoa0.jpg
I have many extensions but I have not changed them in years, what changed due to the Firefox updates,
is the startup time from 1 second to 12 seconds; I do not really know how to tell objectively what to fix.
Disabling two ad-blockers reduces the startup time for 12 seconds to 6 second, but before the updates,
Firefox did in fact startup in 1 second with all the extensions in place.
Comment 4•1 year ago
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Please attach the output of about:support too.
To set an environment variable for a specific Firefox instance:
- Open a text editor such as Notepad.
- Copy paste the following content (assuming a default Firefox installation; change if needed)
SET MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP=1
"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
- Save the above as
debug_firefox_startup.bat(make sure that the file extension is .bat and not a .txt file!) - Quit all existing Firefox programs.
- Double-click on the bat file to launch Firefox.
Also, can you please let me know what extensions are installed on your profile when FF is started?
Thanks,
Victor
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Comment 6•1 year ago
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(In reply to Rob Wu [:robwu] from comment #4)
Please attach the output of
about:supporttoo.To set an environment variable for a specific Firefox instance:
- Open a text editor such as Notepad.
- Copy paste the following content (assuming a default Firefox installation; change if needed)
SET MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP=1 "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
- Save the above as
debug_firefox_startup.bat(make sure that the file extension is .bat and not a .txt file!)- Quit all existing Firefox programs.
- Double-click on the bat file to launch Firefox.
The output of about:support
Application Basics
Name: Firefox
Version: 115.12.0esr
Build ID: 20240603145132
Distribution ID:
Update Channel: esr
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/115.0
OS: Windows_NT 6.1 7601
Launcher Process: Enabled
Multiprocess Windows: 4/4
Fission Windows: 4/4 Enabled by default
Remote Processes: 10
Enterprise Policies: Inactive
Google Location Service Key: Found
Google Safebrowsing Key: Found
Mozilla Location Service Key: Found
Safe Mode: false
Memory Size (RAM): 15.9 GB
Disk Space Available: 1,517 GB
Crash Reports for the Last 3 Days
Firefox Features
Name: Firefox Screenshots
Version: 39.0.1
ID: screenshots@mozilla.org
Name: Form Autofill
Version: 1.0.1
ID: formautofill@mozilla.org
Name: Picture-In-Picture
Version: 1.0.0
ID: pictureinpicture@mozilla.org
Name: Web Compatibility Interventions
Version: 115.1.0
ID: webcompat@mozilla.org
Name: WebCompat Reporter
Version: 1.5.1
ID: webcompat-reporter@mozilla.org
Remote Features
Remote Processes
Type: Preallocated
Count: 3
Type: Socket
Count: 1
Type: Isolated Web Content
Count: 3
Type: Privileged About
Count: 1
Type: Extension
Count: 1
Type: GPU
Count: 1
Add-ons
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Type: extension
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Name: AdBlocker Ultimate
Type: extension
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Enabled: true
ID: adblockultimate@adblockultimate.net
Name: Add-ons Search Detection
Type: extension
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Enabled: true
ID: addons-search-detection@mozilla.com
Name: Amazon.com
Type: extension
Version: 1.6
Enabled: true
ID: amazondotcom@search.mozilla.org
Name: Ant Video downloader
Type: extension
Version: 4.18
Enabled: true
ID: anttoolbar@ant.com
Name: Bing
Type: extension
Version: 1.5
Enabled: true
ID: bing@search.mozilla.org
Name: Browsec VPN - Free VPN for Firefox
Type: extension
Version: 3.84.1
Enabled: true
ID: browsec@browsec.com
Name: Clear Browsing Data
Type: extension
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ID: {ce9f4b1f-24b8-4e9a-9051-b9e472b1b2f2}
Name: Disable HTML5 Autoplay
Type: extension
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ID: disable-html5-autoplay@afnankhan
Name: DuckDuckGo
Type: extension
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Enabled: true
ID: ddg@search.mozilla.org
Name: Easy Youtube Video Downloader Express
Type: extension
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ID: {b9acf540-acba-11e1-8ccb-001fd0e08bd4}
Name: eBay
Type: extension
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Enabled: true
ID: ebay@search.mozilla.org
Name: Firefox DevTools ADB Extension
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Enabled: true
ID: adb@mozilla.org
Name: Flash Video Downloader
Type: extension
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Enabled: true
ID: ductloanphuok@gmail.com
Name: Google
Type: extension
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Enabled: true
ID: google@search.mozilla.org
Name: Google Translator for Firefox
Type: extension
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ID: translator@zoli.bod
Name: LastPass: Free Password Manager
Type: extension
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Enabled: true
ID: support@lastpass.com
Name: MagicCast
Type: extension
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Enabled: true
ID: {ce3da849-9ab7-4c20-8983-db62c8662f47}
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Type: extension
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Enabled: true
ID: newtaboverride@agenedia.com
Name: No Tabs
Type: extension
Version: 1.2resigned1
Enabled: true
ID: {c9f848fb-3fb6-4390-9fc1-e4dd4d1c5122}
Name: Norton Password Manager
Type: extension
Version: 8.1.0.78
Enabled: true
ID: idsafe@norton.com
Name: Save as PDF
Type: extension
Version: 2.1
Enabled: true
ID: save-as-pdf-ff@pdfcrowd.com
Name: Save Page WE
Type: extension
Version: 28.11
Enabled: true
ID: savepage-we@DW-dev
Name: Search by Image on Google
Type: extension
Version: 1.7
Enabled: true
ID: {1d6267dd-4b37-459a-84da-a5d2580daa6a}
Name: Social Video Downloader
Type: extension
Version: 2.3.30
Enabled: true
ID: {00e68183-fc7d-4a91-b5cc-f7f8272386db}
Name: To Google Translate
Type: extension
Version: 4.2.0
Enabled: true
ID: jid1-93WyvpgvxzGATw@jetpack
Name: Turbo Download Manager (3rd edition)
Type: extension
Version: 0.6.5
Enabled: true
ID: jid0-dsq67mf5kjjhiiju2dfb6kk8dfw@jetpack
Name: uBlock Origin
Type: extension
Version: 1.58.0
Enabled: true
ID: uBlock0@raymondhill.net
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Type: extension
Version: 2.54
Enabled: true
ID: {db329f96-f4db-4b6d-b270-2b84192d5308}
Name: Video Downloader Pro
Type: extension
Version: 1.4.1
Enabled: true
ID: @video_downloader_pro
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Type: extension
Version: 2.0.15
Enabled: true
ID: ffext_basicvideoext@startpage24
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Type: extension
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Enabled: true
ID: {b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}
Name: Wikipedia (en)
Type: extension
Version: 1.3
Enabled: true
ID: wikipedia@search.mozilla.org
Name: YouTube Video and Audio Downloader (Dev Edt.)
Type: extension
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Enabled: true
ID: {f73df109-8fb4-453e-8373-f59e61ca4da3}
Name: YouTube Video Downloader/YouTube HD Download
Type: extension
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Enabled: true
ID: youtubedownloader@youtubedownloadvideo1clickgroup.com
Name: Download Manager (S3)
Type: extension
Version: 5.12
Enabled: false
ID: s3download@statusbar
Graphics
Features
Window Device Pixel Ratios: 1.25,1.25,1.25,1.25
Compositing: WebRender
Asynchronous Pan/Zoom: wheel input enabled; scrollbar drag enabled; keyboard enabled; autoscroll enabled; smooth pinch-zoom enabled
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Direct2D: true
Target Frame Rate: 75
WebGPU Default Adapter: { "navigator.gpu": null }
WebGPU Fallback Adapter: { "navigator.gpu": null }
DirectWrite: true (6.2.9200.22902)
GPU #1
Active: Yes
Description: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070
Vendor ID: 0x10de
Device ID: 0x1f07
Driver Version: 30.0.14.7381
Driver Date: 7-11-2022
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RAM: 8192
GPU #2
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Diagnostics
AzureCanvasBackend: direct2d 1.1
AzureCanvasBackend (UI Process): skia
AzureContentBackend: skia
AzureContentBackend (UI Process): skia
AzureFallbackCanvasBackend (UI Process): skia
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Display0: 1920x1080@75Hz scales:1.250000|1.250000
DisplayCount: 1
HardwareStretching: both=0 window-only=0 full-screen-only=0 none=0 error=1
GPUProcessPid: 5744
ClearType Parameters: Gamma: 2.2 Pixel Structure: RGB ClearType Level: 100 Enhanced Contrast: 50
Decision Log
HW_COMPOSITING:
default: available,
D3D11_COMPOSITING:
default: available,
DIRECT2D:
default: available,
D3D11_HW_ANGLE:
default: available,
GPU_PROCESS:
default: available,
WEBRENDER:
default: available,
WEBRENDER_COMPOSITOR:
default: available,
runtime: unavailable, No DirectComposition usage, Blocklisted; failure code FEATURE_FAILURE_DCOMP_NOT_WIN10
WEBRENDER_PARTIAL:
default: available,
WEBRENDER_SHADER_CACHE:
default: available,
WEBRENDER_OPTIMIZED_SHADERS:
default: available,
WEBRENDER_ANGLE:
default: available,
WEBRENDER_DCOMP_PRESENT:
default: available,
env: unavailable, Requires Windows 10 or later, Blocklisted; failure code FEATURE_FAILURE_DCOMP_NOT_WIN10
WEBRENDER_SCISSORED_CACHE_CLEARS:
default: available,
WEBGPU:
default: available,
runtime: blocked, WebGPU cannot be enabled in release or beta, Blocklisted; failure code WEBGPU_DISABLE_RELEASE_OR_BETA
WINDOW_OCCLUSION:
default: available,
VP8_HW_DECODE:
default: available,
VP9_HW_DECODE:
default: available,
REUSE_DECODER_DEVICE:
default: available,
BACKDROP_FILTER:
default: available,
CANVAS_RENDERER_THREAD:
default: available,
ACCELERATED_CANVAS2D:
default: disabled, Disabled by default, Blocklisted; failure code FEATURE_FAILURE_DISABLED
Media
Audio Backend: wasapi
Max Channels: 2
Preferred Sample Rate: 48000
Roundtrip latency (standard deviation): 21.08ms (0.13)
Codec Support Information: H264 SW H264 HW
Output Devices
Name: Group, Vendor, State, Preferred, Format, Channels, Rate, Latency
LG QHD (NVIDIA High Definition Audio): HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10DE&DEV_0093&SUBSYS_38422172&REV_1001\5&274850a6&0&0001, Unplugged, None, default: F32LE, support: S16LE F32LE, 2, default: 48000, support: 48000 - 48000, 0 - 0
LG TV SSCR2 (NVIDIA High Definition Audio): HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10DE&DEV_0093&SUBSYS_38422172&REV_1001\5&274850a6&0&0001, Enabled, None, default: F32LE, support: S16LE F32LE, 2, default: 48000, support: 48000 - 48000, 144 - 480
Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio): HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1043860B&REV_1003\4&165326bb&0&0001, Enabled, None, default: F32LE, support: S16LE F32LE, 2, default: 48000, support: 48000 - 48000, 144 - 480
Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio): HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1043860B&REV_1003\4&165326bb&0&0001, Enabled, All, default: F32LE, support: S16LE F32LE, 2, default: 48000, support: 48000 - 48000, 144 - 480
Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio): HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1043860B&REV_1003\4&165326bb&0&0001, Enabled, None, default: F32LE, support: S16LE F32LE, 2, default: 48000, support: 48000 - 48000, 144 - 480
LG QHD (NVIDIA High Definition Audio): HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10DE&DEV_0093&SUBSYS_38422172&REV_1001\5&274850a6&0&0001, Enabled, None, default: F32LE, support: S16LE F32LE, 2, default: 48000, support: 48000 - 48000, 144 - 480
LG QHD (NVIDIA High Definition Audio): HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10DE&DEV_0093&SUBSYS_38422172&REV_1001\5&274850a6&0&0001, Unplugged, None, default: F32LE, support: S16LE F32LE, 2, default: 48000, support: 48000 - 48000, 0 - 0
Input Devices
Name: Group, Vendor, State, Preferred, Format, Channels, Rate, Latency
Stereo Mix (Realtek High Definition Audio): HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1043860B&REV_1003\4&165326bb&0&0001, Enabled, All, default: F32LE, support: S16LE F32LE, 2, default: 48000, support: 48000 - 48000, 144 - 480
Line In (Realtek High Definition Audio): HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1043860B&REV_1003\4&165326bb&0&0001, Unplugged, None, default: F32LE, support: S16LE F32LE, 2, default: 48000, support: 48000 - 48000, 0 - 0
Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio): HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1043860B&REV_1003\4&165326bb&0&0001, Unplugged, None, default: F32LE, support: S16LE F32LE, 2, default: 48000, support: 48000 - 48000, 0 - 0
Enumerate database
Environment Variables
MOZ_CRASHREPORTER_DATA_DIRECTORY: C:\Users\SystemAdmin2\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Crash Reports
MOZ_CRASHREPORTER_EVENTS_DIRECTORY: C:\Users\SystemAdmin2\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\i80ks5iq.default\crashes\events
MOZ_CRASHREPORTER_PING_DIRECTORY: C:\Users\SystemAdmin2\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Pending Pings
MOZ_CRASHREPORTER_STRINGS_OVERRIDE: C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\browser\crashreporter-override.ini
Experimental Features
about:home startup cache (browser.startup.homepage.abouthome_cache.enabled): true
Cookies: SameSite=None requires secure attribute (network.cookie.sameSite.noneRequiresSecure): false
CSS: Masonry Layout (layout.css.grid-template-masonry-value.enabled): false
Developer Tools: Compatibility Panel (devtools.inspector.compatibility.enabled): true
Developer Tools: Service Worker debugging (devtools.debugger.features.windowless-service-workers): false
Media: JPEG XL (image.jxl.enabled): false
Address Bar: show results during IME composition (browser.urlbar.keepPanelOpenDuringImeComposition): false
Web API: WebGPU (dom.webgpu.enabled): false
WebRTC Global Mute Toggles (privacy.webrtc.globalMuteToggles): false
Remote Experiments
Important Modified Preferences
accessibility.typeaheadfind.flashBar: 0
browser.cache.disk.amount_written: 2091626
browser.cache.disk.capacity: 1048576
browser.cache.disk.filesystem_reported: 1
browser.cache.disk.smart_size.first_run: false
browser.cache.disk.telemetry_report_ID: 99
browser.contentblocking.category: standard
browser.download.useDownloadDir: false
browser.link.open_newwindow: 2
browser.places.smartBookmarksVersion: 8
browser.search.region: US
browser.sessionstore.upgradeBackup.latestBuildID: 20240603145132
browser.startup.homepage: https://aimcmp.com/
browser.startup.homepage_override.buildID: 20240603145132
browser.startup.homepage_override.mstone: 115.12.0
browser.urlbar.placeholderName: DuckDuckGo
browser.urlbar.placeholderName.private: DuckDuckGo
browser.urlbar.quicksuggest.migrationVersion: 2
browser.urlbar.quicksuggest.scenario: offline
browser.urlbar.resultGroups: {"children":[{"maxResultCount":1,"children":[{"group":"heuristicTest"},{"group":"heuristicExtension"},{"group":"heuristi
browser.urlbar.suggest.openpage: false
browser.urlbar.timesBeforeHidingSuggestionsHint: 0
doh-rollout.balrog-migration-done: true
doh-rollout.disable-heuristics: true
doh-rollout.doneFirstRun: true
doh-rollout.home-region: US
doh-rollout.uri: https://mozilla.cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query
dom.forms.autocomplete.formautofill: true
dom.security.https_only_mode_ever_enabled_pbm: true
dom.security.https_only_mode_pbm: true
extensions.formautofill.creditCards.enabled: false
extensions.formautofill.creditCards.used: 2
extensions.formautofill.firstTimeUse: false
extensions.lastAppVersion: 115.12.0
font.internaluseonly.changed: false
font.size.variable.x-western: 14
gfx.blacklist.video-overlay.failureid: FEATURE_FAILURE_DL_BLOCKLIST_NO_ID
gfx.crash-guard.d3d11layers.appVersion: 91.10.0
gfx.crash-guard.d3d11layers.deviceID: 0x0000
gfx.crash-guard.d3d11layers.driverVersion:
gfx.crash-guard.d3d11layers.feature-d2d: false
gfx.crash-guard.d3d11layers.feature-d3d11: false
gfx.crash-guard.status.d3d11layers: 2
gfx.crash-guard.status.wmfvpxvideo: 2
gfx.crash-guard.wmfvpxvideo.appVersion: 91.13.0
gfx.crash-guard.wmfvpxvideo.deviceID: 0x1f07
gfx.crash-guard.wmfvpxvideo.driverVersion: 30.0.14.7381
idle.lastDailyNotification: 1718065376
layers.mlgpu.sanity-test-failed: false
media.benchmark.vp9.fps: 276
media.benchmark.vp9.versioncheck: 5
media.gmp-gmpopenh264.abi: x86_64-msvc-x64
media.gmp-gmpopenh264.hashValue: b667086ed49579592d435df2b486fe30ba1b62ddd169f19e700cd079239747dd3e20058c285fa9c10a533e34f22b5198ed9b1f92ae560a3067f3e3fe
media.gmp-gmpopenh264.lastDownload: 1696117839
media.gmp-gmpopenh264.lastInstallStart: 1696117838
media.gmp-gmpopenh264.lastUpdate: 1696117839
media.gmp-gmpopenh264.version: 2.3.2
media.gmp-manager.buildID: 20240603145132
media.gmp-manager.lastCheck: 1719357045
media.gmp-manager.lastEmptyCheck: 1719357045
media.gmp-widevinecdm.abi: x86_64-msvc-x64
media.gmp-widevinecdm.hashValue: 59521f8c61236641b3299ab460c58c8f5f26fa67e828de853c2cf372f9614d58b9f541aae325b1600ec4f3a47953caacb8122b0dfce7481acfec8104
media.gmp-widevinecdm.lastDownload: 1698193568
media.gmp-widevinecdm.lastInstallStart: 1698193566
media.gmp-widevinecdm.lastUpdate: 1698193568
media.gmp-widevinecdm.version: 4.10.2710.0
media.gmp.storage.version.observed: 1
media.hardware-video-decoding.failed: false
media.peerconnection.ice.default_address_only: true
media.peerconnection.ice.no_host: true
media.peerconnection.ice.proxy_only_if_behind_proxy: true
media.videocontrols.picture-in-picture.video-toggle.enabled: false
media.videocontrols.picture-in-picture.video-toggle.has-used: true
network.cookie.prefsMigrated: true
network.dns.disablePrefetch: true
network.http.speculative-parallel-limit: 0
network.predictor.enabled: false
network.prefetch-next: false
network.trr.blocklist_cleanup_done: true
network.trr.mode: 5
places.database.lastMaintenance: 1718065377
places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages: 85389
plugin.disable_full_page_plugin_for_types: application/pdf
plugin.flash.arch: x86_64-msvc
plugin.flash.blockliststate: 0
plugin.flash.desc: Shockwave Flash 32.0 r0
plugin.flash.lastmod_hi: 374
plugin.flash.lastmod_lo: 1179028709
plugin.flash.path: C:\Windows\system32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF64_32_0_0_465.dll
plugin.flash.version: 32.0.0.465
plugin.state.flash: 2
privacy.popups.showBrowserMessage: false
privacy.purge_trackers.date_in_cookie_database: 0
privacy.purge_trackers.last_purge: 1718065377196
privacy.sanitize.pending: [{"id":"newtab-container","itemsToClear":[],"options":{}}]
privacy.sanitize.timeSpan: 0
security.disable_button.openCertManager: false
security.disable_button.openDeviceManager: false
security.remote_settings.crlite_filters.checked: 1663600494
security.remote_settings.intermediates.checked: 1663600494
security.sandbox.content.tempDirSuffix: {7253b6a3-c397-48f2-b1e2-473cdd4a7b3b}
security.sandbox.plugin.tempDirSuffix: {aeef64da-d9b4-4d44-988b-a20e573f1bd9}
services.sync.declinedEngines:
services.sync.engine.addresses.available: true
signon.importedFromSqlite: true
signon.suggestImportCount: -1
storage.vacuum.last.content-prefs.sqlite: 1714696566
storage.vacuum.last.index: 0
storage.vacuum.last.places.sqlite: 1718065376
Important Locked Preferences
fission.autostart.session: true
Places Database
Entity: sqlite_schema
Count: -
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 24.2
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_places
Count: 3608
Size (KiB): 608
Size (%): 17.3
Efficiency (%): 79.9
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_historyvisits
Count: 401
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 30.8
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_inputhistory
Count: 0
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: sqlite_autoindex_moz_inputhistory_1
Count: -
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_hosts
Count: 0
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: sqlite_autoindex_moz_hosts_1
Count: -
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_bookmarks
Count: 3880
Size (KiB): 416
Size (%): 11.8
Efficiency (%): 90.7
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_keywords
Count: 0
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: sqlite_autoindex_moz_keywords_1
Count: -
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: sqlite_sequence
Count: -
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0.1
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_anno_attributes
Count: 3
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0.3
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: sqlite_autoindex_moz_anno_attributes_1
Count: -
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0.3
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_annos
Count: 1739
Size (KiB): 128
Size (%): 3.6
Efficiency (%): 57.6
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_items_annos
Count: 0
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: sqlite_stat1
Count: -
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 3.2
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_bookmarks_deleted
Count: 5
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0.4
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: sqlite_autoindex_moz_bookmarks_deleted_1
Count: -
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0.3
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_meta
Count: 3
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0.3
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_origins
Count: 2249
Size (KiB): 128
Size (%): 3.6
Efficiency (%): 69.1
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: sqlite_autoindex_moz_origins_1
Count: -
Size (KiB): 128
Size (%): 3.6
Efficiency (%): 58.8
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_places_metadata
Count: 0
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_places_metadata_search_queries
Count: 0
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: sqlite_autoindex_moz_places_metadata_search_queries_1
Count: -
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_previews_tombstones
Count: 0
Size (KiB): 32
Size (%): 0.9
Efficiency (%): 0
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_places_hostindex
Count: -
Size (KiB): 160
Size (%): 4.5
Efficiency (%): 58.6
Sequentiality (%): 39.4
Entity: moz_places_visitcount
Count: -
Size (KiB): 32
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Comment 7•1 year ago
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(In reply to Rob Wu [:robwu] from comment #4)
Please attach the output of
about:supporttoo.To set an environment variable for a specific Firefox instance:
- Open a text editor such as Notepad.
- Copy paste the following content (assuming a default Firefox installation; change if needed)
SET MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP=1 "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
- Save the above as
debug_firefox_startup.bat(make sure that the file extension is .bat and not a .txt file!)- Quit all existing Firefox programs.
- Double-click on the bat file to launch Firefox.
SET MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP=1
"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
3. Save the above as `debug_firefox_startup.bat` (make sure that the file extension is .bat and not a .txt file!) 4. Quit all existing Firefox programs. 5. Double-click on the bat file to launch Firefox
I was unable to get your script to run by double clicking it.
I was able to get your script to run by starting in a powershell window but does not even start Firefox
even though the path is correct and does run the script as the output.txt file get created.
PS C:\Users\SystemAdmin2\Desktop> .\debug_firefox_startup.bat >output.txt
PS C:\Users\SystemAdmin2\Desktop> .\debug_firefox_startup.bat >output.txt
PS C:\Users\SystemAdmin2\Desktop>
this make the output.txt file and does not start Firefox.
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Comment 8•1 year ago
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(In reply to alannsandiego from comment #3)
I do not know how to set environment variables and this tool did not work at all I got these several errors.
https://snipboard.io/XiOa0p.jpg
https://snipboard.io/TUfuvw.jpg
https://snipboard.io/MTXoa0.jpg
I have many extensions but I have not changed them in years, what changed due to the Firefox updates,
is the startup time from 1 second to 12 seconds; I do not really know how to tell objectively what to fix.
Disabling two ad-blockers reduces the startup time for 12 seconds to 6 second, but before the updates,
Firefox did in fact startup in 1 second with all the extensions in place.
I was able to start the performance tool and got these error above by installing he button describe here:
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Comment 9•1 year ago
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(In reply to vcarciu from comment #5)
Also, can you please let me know what extensions are installed on your profile when FF is started?
Thanks,
Victor
In the Firefox Menu
Tools
addons and themes.
you ask for a lot of information I hope it is not to confusing for that all at once?
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Comment 10•1 year ago
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(In reply to alannsandiego from comment #9)
(In reply to vcarciu from comment #5)
Also, can you please let me know what extensions are installed on your profile when FF is started?
Thanks,
VictorIn the Firefox Menu
Tools
addons and themes.you ask for a lot of information I hope it is not to confusing for that all at once?
Sorry the extension list is in about:support you asked for.
Comment 11•1 year ago
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I installed all extensions described above, but the ESR instantly started, even with Adblockers enabled.
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Comment 12•1 year ago
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I happy yours works but mine is still broken. If yours work and mine does not does that imply that the updated corrupted Firefox?
So How do I determine what the problem is? Would it not take days to reinstall Firefox to each six account and reinstall bookmarks and extensions?
Please explain the profiler errors:
1.
Couldn’t retrieve the profile from Firefox.
Error: Error: Could not find a profile for this tab.
2.
Importing the profile directly from Firefox…
We were unable to connect to the browser within thirty seconds. This might be because the profile is big or your machine is slower than usual. Still waiting...
3.
Content-Security-Policy: The page’s settings blocked the loading of a resource at inline (“script-src”). content-fontface.js:50:25
Error: Error: Could not find a profile for this tab.
e web-channel.js:308
AppViewRouter.js:92:20
Error: Error: Could not find a profile for this tab.
e web-channel.js:308
receive-profile.js:1081:14
Error: Promised response from onMessage listener went out of scope 110 background.js:1621:14398
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Comment 13•1 year ago
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12 second to startup is far to long. How do I determine what the problem is? Clearly there is problems with the profile. How do I fix my install of Firefox ESR 115.12, in a reasonable amount of time; so it starts up fast like it is suppose too?
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Comment 14•1 year ago
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the profiler works with the extension disabled: https://share.firefox.dev/3VLLde6
does that not mean the extension are causing the problem?
Comment 15•1 year ago
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Your profile does not include the startup. If the profiler works with extensions disabled, perhaps one of your extensions is responsible for breaking the profiler.
There is another documented profiler option to save the profile on shutdown, could you try to start your Firefox with the following environment variables:
SET MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP=1
SET MOZ_PROFILER_SHUTDOWN=%TMP%\profilerData.json
If you start Firefox with these and then quit it, there should be a file in %TMP% called profilerData.json (feel free you use any other file location or name, but if you do use another file path that contains special characters such as spaces, quote it).
After getting this profile, you can start a new Firefox instance without extensions, visit profiler.firefox.com and upload your profile.
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Comment 16•1 year ago
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(In reply to Rob Wu [:robwu] from comment #15)
Your profile does not include the startup. If the profiler works with extensions disabled, perhaps one of your extensions is responsible for breaking the profiler.
There is another documented profiler option to save the profile on shutdown, could you try to start your Firefox with the following environment variables:
SET MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP=1 SET MOZ_PROFILER_SHUTDOWN=%TMP%\profilerData.jsonIf you start Firefox with these and then quit it, there should be a file in
%TMP%calledprofilerData.json(feel free you use any other file location or name, but if you do use another file path that contains special characters such as spaces, quote it).After getting this profile, you can start a new Firefox instance without extensions, visit profiler.firefox.com and upload your profile.
The Firefox update to 115.12 ESR broke Firefox or the extensions which are part of Firefox
and that is the reason for the bug report; Firefox was working before the update and
now it starts in 12 seconds; the extension have not changed in years, so the extension did not break Firefox.
I have not gotten any scripts to open Firefox and I cannot do anything with a .json file
How to I determine what to fix? to get Firefox working in 1 second again?
I have support Firefox for years it would be unfortunate to have to switch to chrome.
Comment 17•1 year ago
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(In reply to alannsandiego from comment #16)
I have not gotten any scripts to open Firefox and I cannot do anything with a .json file
In comment 7 you described that you knew how to create a bat file.
In fact you showed that you knew how to open the shell (assuming that PS = Powershell). You don't need a .bat file if you run these commands from the shell (NOTE: quit all existing instances of Firefox before running this)
SET MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP=1
SET MOZ_PROFILER_SHUTDOWN=%TMP%\profilerData.json
"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
After running Firefox in this way, quit Firefox and then start it again in the normal way. You should be able to find a new file at "%TMP%\profilerData.json`
How to I determine what to fix? to get Firefox working in 1 second again?
If you are interested in helping with diagnosing the issue so that we can fix the underlying issue, then follow the instructions I provided.
If you don't care about your profile data, and are willing to clear some of your browser customizations (including Add-ons) and data, see https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings
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Comment 18•1 year ago
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SET MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP=1
SET MOZ_PROFILER_SHUTDOWN=C:\Temp\profilerData.json
Start-Process -FilePath "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
If I copy this code into the Powershell Firefox gets opened by the code and closed by me,
but the file
profilerData.json does not get created.
When running the profiler from Firefox manually I get these two errors:
1.
Couldn’t retrieve the profile from Firefox.
Error: Error: Could not find a profile for this tab.
2.
Importing the profile directly from Firefox…
We were unable to connect to the browser within thirty seconds. This might be because the profile is big or your machine is slower than usual. Still waiting...
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Comment 19•1 year ago
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I got the profiler started working by turning off "new tab" and "no tab"
https://share.firefox.dev/45NnAXl
It appears that the shell script you wrote that the profiler is still not starting when Firefox starts,
I started it manually as soon as it was available. The time start a "1" but profiler not starting when Firefox starts.
https://share.firefox.dev/3XEk9jI
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Comment 20•1 year ago
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Comment 21•1 year ago
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Comment 22•1 year ago
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SET MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP=1
SET MOZ_PROFILER_SHUTDOWN=C:\Temp\profilerData.json
Start-Process -FilePath "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
If I copy this code into the Powershell Firefox gets opened by the code above
and I click on "record a performance profile" button as quickly as I can to start recording,
as the recording is not starting when Firefox does, it starts with record button,
The time may start at "1" but recording not start until I click record,
but the file profilerData.json does not get created.
It would seem simpler to
Start-Process -FilePath "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" -profiler_startup=1
and Firefox should startup with recording on and one only needs to stop to get the profiler link?
I will be very interest to see what you think of the profiler data as I record 6 seconds of the 12 seconds to startup
and at least 3 or 4 second of the problem-ed startup time; you should be able to see what the problem is?
looks like waiting on the network to me; or waiting for a network socket? Firefox crashed on 6/11/2024 the update day.
Comment 23•1 year ago
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The most important part of the profile (the early startup) is missing. But your profiles do already highlight one issue that may be a partial contributor to the perceived slowness.
All your profiles consistently show busy activity in the WebExtensions process, notably in Adblock Plus and Adblock Ultimate. In order to block ads, these extensions pause all network requests until they have been initialized, and a slow initialization can result in a perceived slow Firefox startup.
In the about:support data you shared, I see that you have three ad blockers: Adblock Plus, Adblock Ultimate and uBlock Origin. I recommend using only one adblocker at a time, and disabling the others. For example, keep uBlock Origin and disable Adblock Plus and Adblock Ultimate.
You can see the impact of the performance in the profiler by entering "adblock" in the "Filter stacks" input field in the middle (which matches "adblock plus" and "adblockultimate"). That highlights almost half of the stacks in the graph in the WebExtensions row, which means that these extensions alone are doing busy work. The long chunks of red lines above these stacks also show that the slowdown is significant.
Correction; this would be the Powershell syntax to record the profile (since you are now able to export the profile directly, I only kept MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP=1)
$env:MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP="1"
Start-Process -FilePath "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
If the above does not work, try the instructions from here instead: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1830725#c2
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Comment 24•1 year ago
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$env:MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP="1"
Start-Process -FilePath "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
This works and now you have a recording from 0 to 9 seconds, this does not explain why
this should take 1/2 second and not 9 seconds.
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Comment 25•1 year ago
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https://share.firefox.dev/4bwdviG
The browser 115.12 is broken and I cannot see why? should start in 1 second even with the ad-blockers,
How about I do a restore to 6/10/2024 when it was working in 1 second?
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Comment 26•1 year ago
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You have proof that with the profiler data that Firefox ESR 115.12 starts in 9 seconds not the 1 second before the update with the same extensions.
https://share.firefox.dev/3zhNkif
Load 4: http://detectportal.firefox.com/canonical.html on the network take 5 seconds to load this is a WiFi check for login
Load 59: https://publicsuffix.org/list/public_suffix_list.dat on the network take 4.6 seconds to load
Load 60: https://cococut.net/pub/config/config.json?v=1719789870702 take 4.5 second to load
Firefox is suppose to start in 1 second not 9 seconds even with the ad-blockers
With the profiler data now? can you see why it is so slow?
The browser 115.12 is broken and I cannot see why? should start in 1 second even with the ad-blockers,
How about I do a restore to 6/10/2024 when it was working in 1 second?
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Comment 27•1 year ago
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(In reply to Rob Wu [:robwu] from comment #23)
The most important part of the profile (the early startup) is missing. But your profiles do already highlight one issue that may be a partial contributor to the perceived slowness.
All your profiles consistently show busy activity in the WebExtensions process, notably in Adblock Plus and Adblock Ultimate. In order to block ads, these extensions pause all network requests until they have been initialized, and a slow initialization can result in a perceived slow Firefox startup.
In theabout:supportdata you shared, I see that you have three ad blockers: Adblock Plus, Adblock Ultimate and uBlock Origin. I recommend using only one adblocker at a time, and disabling the others. For example, keep uBlock Origin and disable Adblock Plus and Adblock Ultimate.You can see the impact of the performance in the profiler by entering "adblock" in the "Filter stacks" input field in the middle (which matches "adblock plus" and "adblockultimate"). That highlights almost half of the stacks in the graph in the WebExtensions row, which means that these extensions alone are doing busy work. The long chunks of red lines above these stacks also show that the slowdown is significant.
Correction; this would be the Powershell syntax to record the profile (since you are now able to export the profile directly, I only kept
MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP=1)$env:MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP="1" Start-Process -FilePath "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"If the above does not work, try the instructions from here instead: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1830725#c2
Your alternate instructions cannot be used.
Comment 28•1 year ago
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(In reply to alannsandiego from comment #25)
(In reply to alannsandiego from comment #26)
Both profiles confirm what I wrote before - network requests at startup are being suspended because of your ad blockers. Three ad blockers at the same time are a certain factor in the poor experience, and will not make you more protected, since these usually block ads based on similar filters. Based on the profile, I recommend disabling AdBlock Ultimate and Adblock Plus; uBlock Origin appears to have the lowest startup overhead. If you do this, I expect your situation to improve; if the issues continue please share another performance profile.
From the profile, about 3 seconds of slowness may potentially be attributed to Firefox. I'm especially suspicious of the slowness of handling the storage.local.get call, but it is not as excessive as bug 1899015.
Here is a breakdown of these profiles, focused on the three ad blockers that block resolution of network requests, and one observation that blocks the main thread of the extension process:
- 1 second in - first network request is requested. Extension startup is requested.
- 2 seconds in, AdBlock Plus starts, AdBlock Ultimate and uBlock Origin start loading (among others)
- 2.332 seconds in,
storage.local.getAPI is called by Adblock Plus, which takes 3.268s to resolve (!!!) in https://share.firefox.dev/3zhNkif (in the other profile it takes 2.794 seconds)- this can be seen in the Marker Table of the WebExtension process, filter on
d10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d - Interestingly, 2.997 seconds in,
storage.local.getAPI is called by Adblock Ultimate, which interestingly takes "only" 0.739 seconds to resolve. - This slowdown reminds me of bug 1899015 (analysis at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1899015#c1).
- this can be seen in the Marker Table of the WebExtension process, filter on
- 2.5 seconds in, the main thread of the WebExtensions process seems to be blocked for about half a second, waiting on
ModuleGenerator::finishOutstandingTask(previous link goes to m-c, since the profile is captured on ESR115 this link is more accurate). The specific file is499.background-redux.js(622kb) in the Lastpass Password manager add-on (version 4.127.0.1, xpi link) (this add-on itself is almost 120 MB...). - 3 seconds in, Adblock Ultimate starts.
- 3.807 seconds in, uBlock Origin calls
storage.local.getwhich takes 1.673 seconds to resolve. - 4 seconds in, AdBlock Ultimate initializes its own ad blocking engine, which takes 1.3 seconds, and then releases the request at 5.5 seconds.
- 5.8 seconds in, uBlock Origin releases the network request. Unlike the other two adblockers, the main thread is barely blocked.
- Almost 6 seconds in, AdBlock Plus receives the data, takes about 600ms to initialize and finally releases the network request.
Comment 29•1 year ago
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Jan, my analysis of the profile attributes 3 seconds of startup slowdown to slow IndexedDB. Does the profile show anything that stands out to you? Would this be addressed by bug 1671932? Do you have any recommended actions for users to avoid the slowdown?
Comment 30•1 year ago
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Ryan, the profile above (comment 28) shows that the main thread of the WebExtensions process is blocked for about a half second in ModuleGenerator::finishOutstandingTask, waiting on a condition variable associated with code compilation. The relevant code is 622kb and contains "use asm"; (see comment 28 for details).
Blocking the main thread for so long seems excessive. Is this intended behavior? Is there room for optimization?
Here are the specific parts of two distinct startup profiles that show this impact:
- https://profiler.firefox.com/public/ca563x5rzc76hcef4mhqw5hhn6ebz1zyyj4xdw0/calltree/?globalTrackOrder=90w8&hiddenGlobalTracks=1w7&hiddenLocalTracksByPid=7896-0w24w6~10752-0~14488-0~10188-0~7796-0~13044-023~12832-0~1808-013w6~12712-23&range=2112m670&search=finishOutstandingTask&thread=g&v=10
- https://profiler.firefox.com/public/p4qrvm9z9hp7nwptbksdszmpbcw664xx9gwy05r/calltree/?globalTrackOrder=91w708&hiddenGlobalTracks=1w7&hiddenLocalTracksByPid=13512-0w24w6~13280-0~12044-0~5708-0~11696-0~13964-0~9968-013w6~8088-023&range=2432m532&search=finishOutstandingTask&thread=g&v=10
Comment 31•1 year ago
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I don't see QM I/O thread in the profile, so I can't tell for sure, but yes, if this slowdown is caused by storage initialization, then issues like that will be solved by bug 1671932. However, a big slowdown should be observed only after updating the app (when build id changes).
One solution would be reducing the number of origin directories in <profile>/storage/default or just refreshing the profile entirely.
Comment 32•1 year ago
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(In reply to Jan Varga [:janv] from comment #31)
I don't see QM I/O thread in the profile, so I can't tell for sure,
Any suggested environment variables to capture the relevant information? Note: this is an ESR115 build.
Comment 33•1 year ago
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Well, we just need to see what is QM I/O thread (quota manager I/O thread) doing in the main process during the slowdown/hang.
Comment 34•1 year ago
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(In reply to Jan Varga [:janv] from comment #33)
Well, we just need to see what is QM I/O thread (quota manager I/O thread) doing in the main process during the slowdown/hang.
I understood that part. What I don't know off the top of my head is the set of environment variables that the user need to specify in order to capture the profile you are looking for. After digging through the source code, I think that QuotaManager IO is the thread of interest, and that the reporter has to start Firefox like this:
$env:MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP_FILTERS="GeckoMain,Compositor,Renderer,DOM Worker,QuotaManager IO"
$env:MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP="1"
Start-Process -FilePath "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
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Comment 35•1 year ago
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https://share.firefox.dev/4br98Wi Here is the profiler with QM I/O thread
Yes of course if I reduce the number of ad-blockers Firefox will load faster by 1/2 maybe 4 seconds
but I have never seen Firefox load longer than 1 second until update to ESR115.12
Comment 36•1 year ago
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Thanks for the profile. The QuotaManager IO thread doesn't look too busy.
Upon taking another look, I think that the 3 seconds slowdown is not caused by Firefox, but by your add-ons. I zoomed in on the 4 second range 2 seconds after startup, where the graph contains many red bars (=main thread busy): https://profiler.firefox.com/public/w9nz3f6jhh7h731tepg3rzwpb8b578ca7d7wkk0/calltree/?globalTrackOrder=90w8&hiddenGlobalTracks=1w7&hiddenLocalTracksByPid=7056-0235w7~12924-0~3688-0~10212-0~10080-0~10352-023~8388-013w6~5340-0~10976-23&range=1847m4138~2219m3766&thread=h&v=10
- 2.3 seconds in, 526ms jank, flame graph shows that most time spent in
ModuleGenerator::finishOutstandingTask(which I called out before in comment 30 & comment 28) - 2.8 seconds in, 86ms jank, from executing AdBlock Plus. 66ms of that is from a call to OffscreenCanvas.getContext, part of AdBlock Plus's
checkWebGlSupportfunction. - 3.0 seconds in, 500ms jank, from executing LastPass code.
- 3.6 seconds in, 146ms jank, from executing Norton Password manager code.
- 3.9 seconds in, 100ms jank, 25ms to receive the result from IndexedDB, 65ms to structurally clone again into the sandbox of the Adblock Ultimate extension. This must be a big chunk of data, likely the filter list data.
- 4.0 seconds in, 52ms jank + non jank, total of about 100ms of receiving and processing IndexedDB data, the result of
storage.local.get - 4.1 seconds in, 174ms spent on garbage collection (non-blocking).
- 4.3 seconds in, 1.4 seconds (!!!) spent on adblock ultimate.
- 5.7 seconds in, end of jank from adblock ultimate.
- 5.9 seconds in, 544ms jank, from Adblock Plus initializing itself from its own filter lists.
- 6.5 seconds in, end of jank from Adblock Plus.
- 6.8 seconds in, 1.3 seconds (!!!) spent on garbage collection (non-blocking).
I could analyze more, but from this analysis, it is clear that the time spent on executing extension code adds up. And that the WebExtension process's main thread is so busy that the result from IndexedDB (for storage.local.get) could not be processed for a "long" time because the main thread was simply too busy with other stuff.
Again, this profile strongly suggest that Adblock Ultimate and Adblock Plus are doing a lot of work (and also LastPass), which directly contribute to your perceived slow startup. It is possible that the ESR 115.12 update had nothing to do with the issue, and that it just coincided with the issue you're experiencing from these extensions.
Since this profile (and the previous ones) clearly point to Adblock Plus and Adblock Ultimate as a direct cause of the performance issue, can you try disabling them and then record a new profile? You have uBlock Origin already, which already provides the functionality that these others serve.
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Comment 37•1 year ago
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To simplify that Adblock Plus and Adblock Ultimate are not the problem I disabled them
and here are the results:
https://share.firefox.dev/3W38sBM
With the two adblockers remove takes 6 seconds to load instead of 1 second at the most, why?
Load 55: https://publicsuffix.org/list/public_suffix_list.dat still taking 2.6 seconds to load why?
Load 56: https://cococut.net/pub/config/config.json?v=1719882301142 2.3 second to load? why?
Load 4: http://detectportal.firefox.com/canonical.html is on the second 500ms Jank This is a WIFI error and I have Wire Cat 8.
there are 5 Janks in the first 1.1 seconds why?
between 2 sec and 3.1 seconds still 500ms Janks and total of 4, why?
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2024-19/
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2024-26/
Do you ever expect Firefox to startup longer than 1 second? because I have never seen that.
Hopefully easier to see why with the Adblockers disabled, they are not the real problem.
I can do a restore of my computer to 6/10/2024 to show that this slowness is new?
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Comment 38•1 year ago
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Your profiler tool is impressive even if I cannot see all the details, could it be a network problem?
Load 4: http://detectportal.firefox.com/canonical.html is on the second 500ms Jank This is a WIFI error and I have Wire Cat 8.
starts at .75 second and goes to 2.2 seconds; then follow by Load 56: https://cococut.net/pub/config/config.json?v=1719882301142 2.3 second to load? why? that is 5 second also all the missing time?
also
Load 6: https://aimcmp.com/ waiting for socket thread 3.9 second that is basically all the missing time? if loaded right away 2 seconds.
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Comment 39•1 year ago
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$env:MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP_FILTERS="GeckoMain,Compositor,Renderer,DOM Worker,QuotaManager IO"
$env:MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP="1"
Start-Process -FilePath "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
On NEWER machine Main19 with 16 cpu(s)
and nvme drive rule out disk i/o was going to get older Firefox ESR 115.10but it updated before I
could test it. I can do a restore to 4/6/2024 to test this webpage was loading at a once before,
never seen the tile-bar load first until updates. https://share.firefox.dev/4eFUNbn same 6 second load time
It seem absurd to me that your browser would take 6 seconds to load a webpage.
Firefox loads in 2 second but even that is to long, should be 1/2 second.
what is Firefox doing this first .75 second?
what is firefox doing at 1.2 seconds to 1.6 second jank 604 ms it seems to be doing nothing; should be able to get all that time back how?
and 3.0 to 3.5 doing nothing again. Load 3: http://detectportal.firefox.com/canonical.html time here is (very short); so this is a bug on the older machine with no WiFi? as has both wired and WiFi both looks like 3 networks on newer machine
It is not physical disk i/o or cpu or ram is 32GB on new machine. This should be an interesting comparison, the newer machine Main19 is very high end machine and Main19 is not at fault your browser not loading in 2 seconds. almost the same add-ons on purpose and adblock plus and ultimate both turned off.
With the profiler working so well I would think you and your friends would see why Firefox not starting up in < 2 second and not 6 seconds?
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Comment 40•1 year ago
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Users think that a browser that more than 3 seconds generously or (1) second actually to open is not useful or practical. Not all the extension have to load on the First startup, before a webpage loads, maybe that would help? Maybe you can load some extension after the first webpage loads? I have not changed the extensions in years and yet Firefox after updates is 9 times slower than it was only 3 months ago; from 1 second to 9 seconds; the Firefox updates damaged Firefox; and that is just not useful any more. This slow startup is a bug no matter the cause; that is why I filed this bug report so you can fix it. If extensions have to be reloaded after Firefox updated you should have a process for that.
Chrome was installed at the same time with the same extensions the same number of ad-blockers and it has not slowed down, why? Why Firefox? It does not matter if Firefox or extensions in the end it is all Firefox without extension it is not useful. If you need to reset Firefox, before resetting make a list of extension, export extensions list; to reinstall and then reinstall Firefox the same way with the same extension to ALL the user accounts at once; right now it take to much time to reinstall Firefox to fix it; you should fix this.
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Comment 41•1 year ago
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$env:MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP_FILTERS="GeckoMain,Compositor,Renderer,DOM Worker,QuotaManager IO"
$env:MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP="1"
Start-Process -FilePath "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
Your profiler tool successfully showed that after the Firefox update ESR 115.12 Firefox started-up in 9 second, instead of the normal
less than 1 second; Firefox was working before your update and was not slow; so Firefox is the problem, it was not slow before your update
either the most recent 12 or 10 I do not know which one but one cannot miss the Browser starting up in 10 second instead of 1 second.
So I started this bug to find out how to fix Firefox will all the extension that were working before and so it will start normally in less than 1 second?
now that Firefox is damaged by the push out updates. How exactly do I Fix Firefox? Yes I have a lot of extensions, but it was working before, now what?
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Comment 42•1 year ago
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I think the problem is with the last two updates to Firefox since Firefox was working before then,
the the problems with your browser could be determined by someone that understands the last two updates
and the profiler results; but I do not understand the details enough to really even guess more than that.
None the less I need Firefox my default browser working?
Comment 43•1 year ago
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It's hard to tell what's going on with asm.js compile blocking for .5sec because the interesting work (compilation) is happening on background threads. I think enabling 'TaskController' threads will show that. However, it seems very plausible that compiling about a megabyte of asm.js could could take .5 seconds to be compiled on multiple background threads.
We could maybe try to rework how JS script parsing works so that we don't block on asm.js compilation completing before returning a stencil, but that would be a large project and we're not investing any time into asm.js right now. We'd prefer that developers adopt WebAssembly instead, and then they'll get better performance automatically.
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Comment 44•1 year ago
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17 days ago I posted
You have proof that with the profiler data that Firefox ESR 115.12 starts in 9 seconds not the 1 second before the update with the same extensions.
https://share.firefox.dev/3zhNkif
Load 4: http://detectportal.firefox.com/canonical.html on the network take 5 seconds to load this is a WiFi check for login
Load 59: https://publicsuffix.org/list/public_suffix_list.dat on the network take 4.6 seconds to load
Load 60: https://cococut.net/pub/config/config.json?v=1719789870702 take 4.5 second to load
Firefox is suppose to start in 1 second not 9 seconds even with the ad-blockers
With the profiler data now? can you see why it is so slow?
The browser 115.12 is broken and I cannot see why? should start in 1 second even with the ad-blockers,
How about I do a restore to 6/10/2024 when it was working in 1 second?
Does Mozilla Care that there security update caused Firefox 115.12 to startup in 9 seconds? Ten time slower than normal? How is that acceptable?
It maybe that the security update, is incompatible with the extension but you browser is useless without extensions,
should Mozilla determine why Firefox is so slow after the security update?
Comment 45•1 year ago
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I was away from work last week, and Luca is away this week. I'll therefore handle the request for information.
(In reply to alannsandiego from comment #40)
Users think that a browser that more than 3 seconds generously or (1) second actually to open is not useful or practical. Not all the extension have to load on the First startup, before a webpage loads, maybe that would help? Maybe you can load some extension after the first webpage loads?
Firefox already supports this, but. extensions have to cooperate. Any extension that claims to handle network requests will start early, because they are on the critical path to (network) startup.
I have not changed the extensions in years and yet Firefox after updates is 9 times slower than it was only 3 months ago; from 1 second to 9 seconds; the Firefox updates damaged Firefox; and that is just not useful any more.
This slow startup is a bug no matter the cause; that is why I filed this bug report so you can fix it.
My analysis in comment 36 attributes the perceived slowness to your set of installed extensions.
If extensions have to be reloaded after Firefox updated you should have a process for that.
Chrome was installed at the same time with the same extensions the same number of ad-blockers and it has not slowed down, why? Why Firefox?
Chrome does not wait for extensions to start before processing network requests. They considered it preferable for ad blockers to not work at startup than to slow down startup. They tried the opposite before (12 years ago), but reverted the change because of the startup impact: https://issues.chromium.org/issues/40640689#comment10
I'd be willing to add an optional flag to Firefox that causes it to NOT wait for extension startup before handling network requests. Would you be interested in this trade-off? That is, starting the browser as fast as possible without waiting for ad blockers, at the risk of network requests not being blocked by ad blockers.
Another potential idea that I have is to keep track of the currently loaded URLs, and intentionally skip extensions for these requests at startup. This can result in a perceived startup performance improvement, but not for previously unseen visits. This has significant implementation complexity though...
(In reply to alannsandiego from comment #44)
The browser 115.12 is broken and I cannot see why? should start in 1 second even with the ad-blockers,
How about I do a restore to 6/10/2024 when it was working in 1 second?
Please do a restore and record a startup profile, then I compare the profile to see if there is any difference that we need to act upon. At present, with the information provided so far, it is not obvious that the difference is caused by Firefox. The observed startup regression and timing of the update could be purely coincidental.
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Comment 46•1 year ago
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the restore to 6/6/2024 and FF 115.11.0 esr is one to two second faster with all three add blockers 115.12 esr result time 9 seconds and this time is either 7 or 8 seconds
https://share.firefox.dev/3W1nMxG
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Comment 47•1 year ago
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the restore to 5/14/2024 and FF 115.10 both restore only 1/2 second faster than 115.12 I do not remember being a problem this long.
the first page start opening at 7.5 seconds.
https://share.firefox.dev/3SdVpeJ
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Comment 48•1 year ago
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I having problems with my backup system and I was unable to restore to before 4/17/2024 I will try again tomorrow.
Comment 49•1 year ago
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When capturing profiles, make sure to capture multiple, at least 3, to ensure that the observed timings are consistent.
When I compare the profiles that you've recorded, I don't see significant differences, except for one: In the reports you shared earlier (which I analyzed in comment 36), I saw that LastPass adds at least a half second to the startup time, due to compiling moz-extension://80bf5be6-7910-432e-bb2a-31eec51c03bb/499.background-redux.js (search for this in the Marker Table).
In the most recently shared profiles, this slowdown is absent. Based on the observed file names, the difference between the two is that in the "slow" cases you're using the latest version of LastPass, version 4.127.0.1, whereas in the "faster" startup cases, you're using 4.126.0.1. You can find these version at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lastpass-password-manager/versions/
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Comment 50•1 year ago
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I am grateful you teaching me how to use the profiler which at least objectively shows the startup times.
My backup system is not restoring correctly right not and I have to manually restore each backup; I will fix my backup system when it seem you have enough data so see when FF got slow if possible in the last 12 months; it is hard for me to see I did not notice the slow startup before
as it is starting up on my website which I built to open in 1 second; it is likely it maybe that starting FF before the extensions like chrome is a good idea; you can always refresh is issue.
On the Last two restores 6/6/2024 FF v 115.11 and 5/14/2024 FF v 115.10
all I doing is restoring with the modem off so I can stop FF from updating. I am disabling the two "no tab and new tab" and nothing else; using the same program version in use at the time backup-ed.
so those times should be faster each with 3 ad-blockers and not one. You should have the original time for 3 ad-blockers and later the time less 3 seconds with only UBO.
Today restore is 1/22/2024 FF v 115.6 because FF .11 and .10 was still taking 7.5 second to start not 1 second, or 2 seconds.
today https://share.firefox.dev/4f3bfCu came in at 13 seconds so I will do several for you; Chrome stead at most 2 seconds.
I have to close FF to do a profile.
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Comment 51•1 year ago
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To be fair their is slow down from FF saying an update available it is in the way of the stop profiler and there could be extension trying to update in the background etc. though I not see the extension updating yet. https://share.firefox.dev/3zRZBdK 10.5 second with all 3 ad-blockers; I do not understand why so slow that why I jumping by months. I hope I am correct start with 3 ad-blockers, went to 1 with time 2 or 3 seconds better; then the two restores should be back to 3 ad-blockers because it was never expected that extension could slow FF from starting; it is unknown how FF would start without network blocks?
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Comment 52•1 year ago
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3rd FF v 115.6 1/22/2024 https://share.firefox.dev/4dc8Y6r about 8 seconds w 3 ad-blockers; I am amazed how slow FF is and I do not remember it that slow but I have not been working as much that last year as I am 65 and retired.
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Comment 53•1 year ago
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FF v102.15.1 FF got much slow after this version; loads about 7.25 seconds https://share.firefox.dev/3Wf0Nza
w all 3 ad-blockers, with only one ubo maybe 4 seconds?
I do not understand the profiler very well but FF is taking 1.5 seconds before the web extensions even start.
Maybe the first 3 second only FF starting then web extension allow to start?
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Comment 54•1 year ago
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still FF v102.15.1 2nd profiler idk y 9 seconds https://share.firefox.dev/4cKZGP1
time issue the first 2 seconds and 4 to 6.5 most every FF.
say load 6 network say 7.5 seconds to load aimcmp.com my site and I know it has always test to 1 to 1.5 load time WebPageTest.org
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Comment 55•1 year ago
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last FF v102.15.1 3rd https://share.firefox.dev/3y5Cc7U 8 second again. this is an objective test but I would have noticed months ago long
before this version if FF is this slow; I should think the goal would be no more than 4 second total will all the web extension, ya maybe
I have to many but I do not remember it slowing FF this much, it did take me a while at least 3 months to find a way to complain about this
since you guy took down the submit feed back.
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Comment 56•1 year ago
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I will do one more 5/25/2023 and that will have to be enough for hopefully some speed improvement before FF quit Windows 7? I hope so ...
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Comment 57•1 year ago
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so you have a year of real world data with lot of extension add to work on the speed of FF for FF v115 before you quit Window 7 please.
5/25/2023 FF v 102.11.0 8.5 seconds https://share.firefox.dev/3SgyRd9
I notice start 0.5 second faster that FF 115.0 looks like 9/24/2023 was the fastest version last 12 months.
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Comment 58•1 year ago
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2nd 5/25/2023 FF v102.11.0 seems like the rendering started early of this one even it took long? https://share.firefox.dev/3WaS6Ge
8 second start to render but does finish until 13 seconds?
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Comment 59•1 year ago
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the startup time matters because most the time it started once, opening tab no problems, but as you can see I do not use tab either; one more.
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Comment 60•1 year ago
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record had not load after 32 seconds, I do not if these are real times with the profiler running but still objective.
made to large profiler would not upload.
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Comment 61•1 year ago
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Load 72: https://self.adblockultimate.net/k 23 seconds.
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Comment 62•1 year ago
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Load 72: https://self.adblockultimate.net/k 23 seconds.
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Comment 63•1 year ago
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3rd 5/25/2023, FF v 102.11.0 8 seconds about https://share.firefox.dev/3zONGgR
Did all this for you guys because frankly I never notice the Firefox taking more than 2 seconds to load,
my web page is made on propose to start in 1 to 1.5 seconds and I have never notice until recently,
FF taking longer to load than my web page and I spent a lot of time making my web page load in 1 second so that no one wait for it to render.
True Ad-block Ultimate really slow FF down and True I have 3 ad-blockers
but for some reason I still never expect to see FF so slow and I very much hoping you can allow
FF 115 to load first and extension second likely and seems you maybe able to reduce the loading by half for 9 second to 4 or less?
Hopefully before you give up on Window 7? idk? I got you lots of real world data with lot of extension like many people do.
Hope it helps.
Let me know if you want any more data? but hopefully this is enough to get a good idea where to reduce the load time!
Please do not quit FF ESR until you have some improvements?
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Comment 64•1 year ago
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Thank for me test my network restore I found a problem with Acronis and the Diskstation login credentials I have to fix. It is a pain to copy backup to local drives.
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Comment 65•1 year ago
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I am not sure that not using extension is a work around.
I have a feature request and I do not know where to post it.
I have thousand of bookmarks and I would like to see:
bookmark menu1 and bookmark menu2 side by side in edit mode
so that first I can select the folders to transfer by click each to move from menu1 to menu2
and then in each folder to click on all the links to move all at once or to delete at once it take to long to delete one by one.
If there is already a way to mass edit bookmarks let me know, thanks.
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Comment 66•1 year ago
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On the feature request to delete multiple bookmarks by clicking on them to select them for delete might be enough;
looks like Ctrl click does this. lol.
On the slow startup, I do not see what the problem is? With 100 mb/sec download why any browser take more than 3 seconds total to load,
I do not remember when exactly I started waiting for FF to load, but I hope you are able to fix it.
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Comment 67•1 year ago
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comment 24
$env:MOZ_PROFILER_STARTUP="1"
Start-Process -FilePath "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
This works and now you have a recording from 0 to 9 seconds, this does not explain why this should take 1/2 second and not 9 seconds. FF 115.12 esr
https://share.firefox.dev/4cq73eo
comment 17
If you are interested in helping with diagnosing the issue so that we can fix the underlying issue, then follow the instructions I provided.
If you don't care about your profile data, and are willing to clear some of your browser customizations (including Add-ons) and data, see https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings
So is it normal for FF 115.12 to take 9 seconds to start? I remember it start right away even with lot of extension although I was unable to prove it.
Even if I refresh Firefox would the startup time improve? Seems there is no way to add back all the extension except one at time and one user account at time and I have two admins and one user account; 3x 15 or more extension it would take hours.
Is there any other way to get Firefox startup time back to two seconds other than deleting extensions?
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Comment 68•1 year ago
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I do not know what else I can help with?
I was hoping to get FF starting up in 2 seconds again?
Is there any way to fix FF 115.12 ESR ?
Comment 69•1 year ago
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Thanks for the many profiles. They are very helpful in getting an idea in what's going on.
The result of my analysis is still consistent with what I wrote before in comment 36 and comment 45.
It is not normal for Firefox to take 9 seconds to start. You can improve your startup time by disabling AdBlock Plus and AdBlock Ultimate (without loss of functionality, because uBlock Origin already protects you). Having multiple ad blockers installed does NOT improve your "protection", but they do slow down your browser and may interfere with each other.
The other work-around that you can do is to keep Firefox around for longer instead of quitting it entirely.
With your current usage pattern, it is not possible to get startup time down to 2 seconds.
(In reply to alannsandiego from comment #65)
I have a feature request and I do not know where to post it.
The forum at support.mozilla.org sounds like the best place for questions on using Firefox.
Another place to ask such questions from the community is https://reddit.com/r/firefox/
To make it easier to find relevant comments, I've marked your comments about bookmarks as off-topic. But if you're looking for documentation on managing bookmarks, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/bookmarks-firefox is a good place to start. The Library window is a built-in bookmark manager (see How do I organize my bookmarks?). While you can only have one such window, you can open another view of the bookmarks by opening the sidebar (shortcut: Ctrl+B), and then drag bookmark folders between the two of these.
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Comment 70•1 year ago
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I am disappointed in Firefox, chrome has the same extension and chrome starts up in two seconds.
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Comment 71•1 year ago
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Firefox was unable to improve FF startup in 9 seconds and freezing on opening, without disabling extension that were working
with FF to open in 2 seconds previous as I would have noticed if I had to wait for my website to open which opens in 1 second.
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