Closed Bug 201221 Opened 21 years ago Closed 21 years ago

Mozilla window fails to redraw under windows 98

Categories

(SeaMonkey :: General, defect)

Product:
SeaMonkey
Component:
General
Platform:
x86
Windows 98
Type:
defect
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
normal

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Status:
RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 204374

People

(Reporter: afert_david, Assigned: asa)

Details

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312

While I am browsing, mozilla occationally stops redrawing.  All the tool bars
and part of the website will be replaced by my desktop picture.  If I move my
cursor over something that changes with focus, it will draw that (such as a
hyperlink, or an active button).  I'm using windows 98.  I have found that the
problem comes up less frequently if I don't have mozilla maximized.  

Reproducible: Sometimes

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open Mozilla 
2. Start browsing.

Actual Results:  
After a while, mozilla will stop being redraw, and I will have to close the
whole thing to temporarily fix it.  The website that I'm visiting doesn't seem
to have an effect on if it happens.  


I'm running Win98, SE.  I am using AIM, which I keep docked on the left side of
the screen.  Initially, I thought that the difference between the screen
resolution, and the resolution that mozilla gets (because the docked AIM window)
was causing the problem, but it still happens from time to time.
What video card are you using, and with what drivers? This seems like a video
card driver issue to me.
I get this bug fairly often too (v 1.3) and have done for quite some time (incl.
older versions). I THINK it seems to be worse when I have either KaZaA lite or
PHPEdit open at the same time. So I'm not sure if it's a memory leak from one of
them or Mozilla. But I also get this with Opera so I'm not sure as it is
Mozilla. I have an nVidia GeForce 2 MX with the latest drivers.
Since you're using Win9x....

When you run across this problem, what are your system resources at?  (according
to Windows Resource Meter)
I'm using a NVIDIA TNT2 M64 4xAGP video card.  I have not updated the drivers
since I've gotten my computer.  The driver version is 4.12.01.0529.  I have the
resolution set at 1280 by 1024.  
The resource meter usually says about half of my resources are full.  I haven't
seen any corelation between remaining resources, and the bug happening.  
Hi David & Rick!

Maybe a solution for you, too:
Since migrating from 1.2 to 1.3 I had some similiar behaviour like no drawing or
partially drawing of pages or not completely redrawing on reload after surfing
for a while. Except seeing my desktop, other issues were close to what you
described. Relaunching Mozilla solved it just for a while - I ran into the same
problem again after some time.

First I supposed a conflict with my video-driver (I must confess, on this
W98SE-machine was still a 14.40 in use for a GF2MX400ViVo). Then I experienced
the same on a second W98SE-PC with a brand new Radeon7500LE.
So that seemed not to be the reason in my case...

Now I remembered that I previously had a lower browser-cache setting when using
1.2, so I gave it a try. My 1.3 was using 32768KB, so I lowered it to 16384
without success. But I continued...
After setting the browser-cache to 8192KB it was fixed! ;-)
I'm now able again to browse for hours and hours without crashed browser-windows
or -tabs!

Just have a look at your cache-settings ("Settings"-"Advanced"-"Cache") and try
a value of 8192KB. There is no significant effect on browsing performance.
Don't miss to reboot after changing this value, especially if using quicklaunch.

If there are still problems, I'd recommend, too, looking for a newer
nvidia-driver equal or higher than 41.09. Preferrably drivers from the
manufacturer of your graphics-board as some of them include tweaks, otherwise
try the reference-drivers from nvidia.com.

Good luck!
Thanks for the advice, but I don't think that is the problem, as I have my cache
set to 5,000 KB, and it has just happened again. My system resources were at 16%
free, user resources at 47% and GDI at 16%. I have KaZaA-lite open too, which
I'm pretty sure has a bunch of memory leaks as it always causes crashes, so
maybe that's the cause?
Since it might be a memory leak, I tried rebooting my computer on a more regular
basis.  I've found that if I turn my computer off every night, I don't get the
bug.  
It happened once more, this time I haven't had KaZaA lite or PHPEdit open at
all. I was on the page
http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/kingscastle/gallerya.htm with
three other tabs open, and the side bar open, but minimized to the left. Then
the system resources went down to 3%, user at 65% (the average anyway) and GDI
to 3%. Then I closed Mozilla and the resources went back up to normal. Does that
mean there's a memory leak in Mozilla?
I'm using Moz build 2003050714, 1.4b and also have this problem. System is using
GeForce4, cache is apparently set to 50MB. I am not running any applications in
comon with the previous reporter. Bug does not affect ChatZilla when that is
also running, but obviously both the Moz and CZ windows must be closed to do a
full restart of the program, just closing main Moz window does not fix the problem.

I have managed to temporarily 'restart' redrawing when restoring the application
window, not 100% sure how though.

I am running Win98SE, however I also have run Mozilla from identical setup files
on Win2000 Professional (Using Radeon 9100 gfx card), without encountering this bug.
When this does happen, have [anyone who's seen this] tried opening a new window
(Ctrl-N) and closing the existing window?

Can Moz open a new window? Does it get drawn? Does closing the existing window
allow it to get drawn?

(it's sounds like Moz is losing/running out of GDI resources, which would mean
it can't create pens/brushes needed to draw stuff)
I have also been experiencing this same issue under Windows 98 using build
2003052908.  The problem showed up after I switched from 1.2 to 1.3 and also
appears while using the 1.4 build 2003052908.  My video card is the Nvidia
GeForce2 GTS.  The problem appears no matter what my cache size settings are.

I tried opening a new window and closing the existing window and the problem
appears on both windows.  The new window appears, but with some of the contents
of the old window.  For example: I experience a redraw problem on ESPN.com; I
open a new window which should be my.yahoo.com, but the new window shows some of
the contents of ESPN.com.  When I switch back to the ESPN window, the part
covered by the new window looks ok except that the navigation bar is still
screwed up.

The content part of the window redraws ok when I use the scroll bar, but all the
 bars (navigation bar, personal toolbar, status bar, etc) are still screwed up.
Bruce:
Please answer my question in comment #3
I rebooted my computer last night and I don't see the same problem anymore;
however, I do notice that the system resources and gdi resources reach 0% after
a lot of random browsing.  After this happens, the browser bars (nav, etc.)
start having the redraw problems, but the content window seems to refresh ok
(unlike the problem I described in my previous comments).   After I close the
browser window, all the resources get freed and when I restart the browser
things look normal. 

Next time I reach a problem similar to my previous comment, I'll post some more
info.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 204374 ***
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 21 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
I think this bug should be re-opened.  I'm getting window redraw problems again
and my resource meter tells me that there are resources free (52% system, 52%
user, 65% GDI).
Product: Browser → Seamonkey
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