212687 - Broken scriptability (javascript) of embedded objects' methods (eg RealOne player, Quicktime)

Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME

(Core Graveyard :: Plug-ins, defect)

Description

[Ken Johanson]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030612
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030612

Javascript calls that should control Quicktime, RealOne player methods, do
nothing at all on Mac OSX -- but do work fine on Windows.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. load latest version of QuickTime and/or RealOne (apple.com/quicktime
www.realone.com/realone/mac/)
2. load a sample URL
3. click on the Links with javascript calls (play, stop, etc)
4. another sample URLs QT: http://home.encorehollywood.com/public/QT.htm Real:
http://home.encorehollywood.com/public/JS.htm

Actual Results:  
Tried multiple DOM reference types (index, getElementByID, etc). All fail on OS-X.


Curiously, NO combination of (other) browsers and plugins that I've tried do
work on OS-X -- however, this still is a broken feature (which I have a HEAVY
need for). 

If this is a broken OS... or plugin... issue, what exactly needs to be fixed on
their end? I need this information to 'help promote' collabertion by the OS
and/or plugins developer teams and/or write a patch myself.

Comment 1

[Olivier Cahagne]

QT should be scriptable, don't know about Real on MacOSX:
http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/OSX.html
reading the doc, I'm not sure it's scriptable on MacOSX:
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/QuickTime/REF/QT41_HTML/QT41WhatsNew-72.html
anyway, it's an Apple/QT (and Real) bug.

Comment 2

[Ken Johanson]

Actually, this doesn't seem to be an Apple or Quicktime or Real bug, becasue
this feature DOES work on Netscape 7.0 for OS-X - but not on 7.1 (something
seems to have broken in between). Memory seem to tell me that it did
correspondingly work OK on early Mozillas as well, though it doesn't on the
latest ones...

I'll do some version musical chairs and see which version of Moz ot broke at...

Comment 3

[Ken Johanson]

This very definately was broken sometime after Moz 1.2.1 for OSX, which DOES
work okay. 1.3 does not. Presumably this is the reason later Netscape version do
not work either.

Comment 4

[Olivier Cahagne]

Marking NEW since it has analysis, broken between 1.2.1 and 1.3.

Comment 5

[Peter Lubczynski]

No, this is not new. The problem is due to the compiler used to make the
plugin's scriptable interface and the browser -- they must match. Mozilla 1.3
and newer plus Netscape 7.1 and newer are built with gcc for Mach-O which gives
a large performance gain as one of the perks. Netscape 7.0 plus Mozilla 1.2 and
older are built with Codewarrior in the CFM format for backwards compatibility. 

Plugins vendors need to update their plugins to Mach-O for scriptability to
work. See: http://wwww.mozilla.org/projects/plugins/

Comment 6

[Ken Johanson]

Does anyone here have contacts / collaberation happening with the KHTML/Safari
developers? It would be nice to see both parties using an agreed (compatible)
strategy to fix this...

Comment 7

[daniel yang]

QT scriptability stopped after Mozilla 1.2.1 for the Mac.  Extremely important 
feature which I hope is given more attention.

Comment 8

[HARUNAGA Hirotoshi]

*** Bug 232308 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 9

[HARUNAGA Hirotoshi]

The scriptability for Quicktime and Flash now work with SeaMonkey
2005111110-trunk using QuickTime 7.0.3 and Shockwave Flash 8.0 r22
on OS 10.3.9.

Comment 10

[Ken Johanson]

Confirm, scripting now working with latest builds. This can be marked fixed. 
Awesome work!!

Comment 11

[Wayne Mery (:wsmwk)]

closing WFM per reporter.