User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 When applying a recurrence to a new event in Calendar, there is no option of allowing the event to recure in terms of weekdays and especially business days of a month or year or more. An example would be a credit card statement (which in my case is due every month in terms of business days) like the 14th business day of the month or another example would be meetings which are suppose to be on certain business days of the month on a financial calendar. It would be preferable to have Calendar that upon uploading an .ics or ical file of the holidays of a particular country to know which days are and aren't business days for that particluar country (what are an aren't bank holidays), so that when setting the recurrence of an event in terms of business days, a choice of country should be given (like a drop down menu) to decide which country's financial calendar should be used to determine what are and aren't business days for recurrence settings of an event. Maybe even adding a default country in the settings of Calendar to simply this might help. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3.
Forgive me, but is your issue either that business days should be specifyable by the user (local specific maybe) or that we need more/better options for repitition (sp?) Thank you
Summary: [RFE] Allow more options to recurrence of events → Allow more options to recurrence of events
Here is how I see this function being added: The number of business days would be defined by the user using a specific calendar file the user would select. It might be an blank ical file except for the weekdays that are not business days for the user's country marked as events. It would mark weekdays that are not business days, such as a bank holidays or New Year's Day (January 1) when it is a weekday or a national holidays (like July 1 in Canada while July 4 in the US), as events. Next in the recurrance options, now using the number of business days, the user would select how the appointments/events would repeat in terms of business days. For example my credit card statement occurs every month on the 14th business day of that month. Now with the weekdays that are not business days noted, the program would go through each day of the month and know if it was a business day or not. The program would start from the 1st of the month check if each day was a business day or not (like a weekend or the non-business weekdays noted), incrementing each time it is a business day until it reach the business day of that month. A similar method without the specific calendar for events which reoccur in terms of only weekdays or only weekends.
I am also missing the recurrence term "last day of month" which is quite important for monthly tasks.
After trying out Sunbird (which I just discovered a few days ago) I have noticed that the recurrance of events had the added feature of exceptions to that recurrance. Something which is not even found in Outlook. If something similar could be done in Calendar by expanding the list of execptions to being given in a file, maybe in ics format, to cross off weekdays that are not business days with the addition of counting the number of business days in a month it might work. I also agree with the last comment with the recurrance missing out on thing like the last or first day/month/year as well as any multiple of the those time units (i.e. 14th day of the month, 3rd month of the year, every 4 years, etc)
RFC2445 can store day-N-of-month, and day-N-from-month-end. Calendar can produce day-N-of-month, but not day-N-from-month-end yet, nor business-day-N-of-month. To do day of month, just set the start date to the first occurrence, and in the recurrence tab select [x] repeat every [ 1] [month] and the options will change to include (x) on the Nth of the month where N is the day number of the start date. day-N-from-month-end is specified in iCal by using a negative day. RRULE:FREQ=MONTHLY;BYMONTHDAY=-3 business-day-14-of-month, where business days are Mon-Fri excluding jan1 would be specified in iCal something like RRULE:FREQ=MONTHLY;BYDAY=MO,TU,WE,TH,FR;BYSETPOS=14 EXRULE:FREQ=MONTHLY;INTERVAL=12;BYMONTHDAY=1 (assuming EXRULE is general, so it applies to the generated set of days before BYSETPOS is applied.)
(In reply to comment #5) > RFC2445 can store day-N-of-month, and day-N-from-month-end. > Calendar can produce day-N-of-month, but not day-N-from-month-end yet, nor > business-day-N-of-month. > > To do day of month, just set the start date to the first occurrence, and in the > recurrence tab select [x] repeat every [ 1] [month] > and the options will change to include > (x) on the Nth of the month > where N is the day number of the start date. > > day-N-from-month-end is specified in iCal by using a negative day. > RRULE:FREQ=MONTHLY;BYMONTHDAY=-3 > > business-day-14-of-month, where business days are Mon-Fri excluding jan1 would > be specified in iCal something like > RRULE:FREQ=MONTHLY;BYDAY=MO,TU,WE,TH,FR;BYSETPOS=14 > EXRULE:FREQ=MONTHLY;INTERVAL=12;BYMONTHDAY=1 > (assuming EXRULE is general, so it applies to the generated set of days before > BYSETPOS is applied.) I would not know how the events in ical are setup specifically. Also there are other days besides January 1 there are other events that are exclusions. For a recent example take Labour Day, it occurs on the first Monday of September which would not make it a business day. If you look at my first post I stated that Calendar should have more options to its recurrance of events that work for different situations from financial (which determining what are business days is key) and other events such as a meeting which occurs on the last weekday of the month, etc.
Note: bug summary seems too vague, it is not clear under what conditions this bug could be closed. I suggest changing summary to ask for a specific kind of recurrence; if there are other recurrences, file other bugs later. I suggest change summary to: "Allow recurrence on Nth business-day of month".
Reporter: I tend to agree with gekacheka's comment #7 that this is too vague of a report. That being said, I'll try to address a couple of the issues raised in it: repeat every Nth business day: As said in comment #5, the standard calendar format (RFC2445) does not define any way of calculating this/storing this information. If sunbird/calendar is to remain compatible with other calendar programs (a priority for the project), then this cannot be fixed. Holidays: Holiday files can be downloaded for a variety of countries from the calendar website. Again, however, these can only be stored as normal events. There's the additional problem that some holidays are still work days (ie Valentine's Day), and some days off aren't holidays (ie the day after Thanksgiving). Again, I don't think your request is plausible. First/Last day of month (comment #4): Please see bug 259131. This is requested there. I'd like to suggest that this bug be resolved, if only in favor of a few more specific bugs that can be dealt with more easily.
See previous comment. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 259131 ***
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 14 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
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