269777 - Mozilla adds extra pixel to the left and right to the Luna vertical theme scrollbars / top and bottom to horizontal scrollbars - width / height is not consistent with other Windows applications.

Status: NEW

(Core :: XUL, defect)

Description

[Kai de Leeuw]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

See attached screen shot, it is easy to see that the scrollbars aren't rendered
like truly native XP scrollbars.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:

Comment 1

[Kai de Leeuw]

Attachment: Screen shot showing the wrong rendering of scroll bars,

Comment 2

[Reuben Chew]

Where does the difference lie in?

Comment 3

[:Gavin Sharp [email: [e-mail]]]

Looks the same to me.

Comment 4

[Kai de Leeuw]

First, an extra padding vertical line to the left of the scroll arrow. And if
one digs deeper one will notice more differences, like the vertical line to the
right exactly below the border of the scroll arrow. It just isn't there in Firefox.

Comment 5

[Mike Connor [:mconnor]]

There's a trivial difference, but I don't know if that's entirely scrollbar-related.

-> trivial (barely noticable UI bit)
-> NEW

Comment 6

[Kai de Leeuw]

This is a legacy of the Classic theme which has the same cosmetic problem.

Comment 7

[José Jeria]

Attachment: Clearer screenshot

Comment 8

[Kent]

This bug is still around in Deer Park alpha 2, so I thought I'd comment on it.

(In reply to comment #5)
> There's a trivial difference, but I don't know if that's entirely
scrollbar-related.
> 
> -> trivial (barely noticable UI bit)
> -> NEW

Severity should be Normal, or at least Minor.

While the cosmetic difference is trivial, the usability difference isn't - i.e.
when you have your browser maximised Mozilla's extra 1px right border means you
can't move the mouse to the very far right side of the screen to use the
scrollbar, you have to go to the far right... and then back left one pixel. 

Now, some windows applications do the same thing as Mozilla (I tried WordPad,
NotePad, Word 2002) so it might be standard Windows behaviour but Explorer/IE
does it -right-, and that makes them easier to use.

If the fix is as simple as changing a css border value to 0px instead of 1px, it
should be dealt with right away. 

Comment 9

[Kent]

Looked around a bit more, and this looks to be a duplicate of bug 173155.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173155

Comment 10

[:Gavin Sharp [email: [e-mail]]]

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 173155 ***

Comment 11

[Kai de Leeuw]

Nah, I didn't report on that issue.

Comment 12

[José Jeria]

I agree, this is not a duplicate of that bug

Comment 13

[:Gavin Sharp [email: [e-mail]]]

Why is it not a duplicate of that bug? That bug is a direct result of there being an extra pixel on the right of the scrollbar when using Windows XP's Luna.

Comment 14

[Kai de Leeuw]

because I see it always, not just in fullscreen

Comment 15

[José Jeria]

Gavin, see the attached image, this issue is always visible on any scrollbar

Comment 16

[Jason Bassford]

Tweaking summary for bug searching.

I'd originally taken my problem to bug 61188, but will repeat it here.

The SeaMonkey scrollbars are exactly 2 pixels wider / taller than are the scrollbars in any other Windows application - under Windows XP, using Luna, or the theme (Hyperion) I designed and am currently running with.

I'm attaching a screenshot of the problem in my "Hyperion" theme.  The already existing graphic attached here illustrates the problem with the native XP Luna  them.  This was also discussed last year in Cheeaun's blog (it's from where that graphic comes):
http://cheeaun.phoenity.com/weblog/2004/08/scrollbar-tweaks.html

In the case of my Hyperion Windows theme, it screws up the graphics I designed by giving a right vertical line on vertical scrollbars, and a bottom horizontal line on horizontal scrollbars.

This occurs with both the native SeaMonkey classic theme as well as the newer
Orb Colours Classic theme
(http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=362605&postdays=0&postorder=asc&postsperpage=15&start=0).

Comment 17

[Jason Bassford]

Attachment: Hyperion vs our nsITheme

Shows how the non-standard width screws up some themes.