28930 - Clicking a link produces dotted box around it, like in IE.

Status: VERIFIED INVALID

(Core :: Layout, defect, P3)

Description

[ahahl]

Clicking a link produces dotted grid around it, like in IE. I
think it's visually bad, and if the link is an image with rollover
efect the dotted box may look really bad.

This is the case especially in menus where the link doesn't
refresh the menu-page itself so that the dotted box will stay visible.
Netscape 4 don't show the box, which I like much better.

To reproduce:
1. goto www.conventum.fi
2. Don't mind the browser check and click on the link WWW.CONVENTUM.FI
3. Click 'Konserni' and click on the subitems.

You should see dotted box around link images.
Rollover-effects work also slowly and unreliably.

I would advice not to show the box.

Comment 1

[troy]

Reassigning

Comment 2

[rods (gone)]

Troy, the issues concerning this bug have to do with the anchor frame object and 
its associated style. I don't own this area, this isn't my bug. Kipp originally 
wrote/owned that code, I am buried in form control issues. I am assigning this 
back to you to find the appropriate owner.

Comment 3

[troy]

No, I don't want this bug. This is all related to outlines that you 
championed...

Comment 4

[John Morrison]

There are really two points noted on this report : 

(1) [e-mail] doesn't want this outline to appear in pages that (s)he
    authors. Solution: add the following CSS to the page:

<style>
 :link:focus, :visited:focus, :out-of-date:focus,
 :link:focus img, :visited:focus img, :out-of-date:focus img {
     outline: none;
   }
</style>

 [I don't think that there is any concensus to remove this from the default
  UA stylesheet, and, in my opinion, this feature is desirable as it improves
  usability and accessibility].

(2) The outline does not clear when focus moves to the next <A HREF...>. 
    This is covered by bug #18579, and this bug is a DUPLICATE.


rods? Mark this as DUPL?

Comment 5

[John Morrison]

Doh! Sorry, I did not intend to remove the URL. Putting it back.

Comment 6

[David Baron :dbaron: (⌚️UTC-5, no longer working on Mozilla)]

The outline is needed to indicate focus.  The only thing that could perhaps be
changed is changing whether clicking on a link gives the link focus, but I think
that's a good thing.

Comment 7

[[e-mail]]

The dotted grid is not always begin drawn correctly.

Comment 8

[[e-mail]]

Attachment: Dotted "border" around a blank image.

Comment 9

[David Baron :dbaron: (⌚️UTC-5, no longer working on Mozilla)]

There are other bugs on that.  In particular, what you're seeing is because both
the anchor and image are outlined.  When the outline code is changed to work
differently from the border code, it will no longer be necessary to outline the
image as well.  At least, I think there's another bug# on that...

Comment 10

[rods (gone)]

Yes, I think buster has that bug. So it appears all the issues here are covered 
elsewhere. Right? So I can makr this bug invalid?

Comment 11

[rods (gone)]

marking invalid

Comment 12

[Keyser Sose]

Duplicate bug marking as verified.