As Mozilla product content now lives on mozilla.com, we should look at modifying the "Products" section on mozilla.org to focus on ongoing Mozilla projects. Initial thoughts on the scope of work: 1. Assess amount of site content currently living at mozilla.org/products/ to determine level of redirects, etc. that would be caused by this change. 2. Replace the navigation tab across www.mozilla.org for Products with a tab for Projects. 3. Create a new main page for Mozilla Projects that splits out the various .org projects into three categories: applications, technologies, and activities, and lists the contents of the current mozilla.org/projects and mozilla.org/products pages, as well as community activity pages like spreadfirefox.com. 4. Provide links to mozilla.com/products for people interested in Firefox and Thunderbird.
Component: www.mozilla.org → *.mozilla.org
Product: mozilla.org → Websites
Version: other → unspecified
Bugs relating to content with www.mozilla.org go in mozilla.org :: www.mozilla.org. This component will eventually be moved to the Websites product, but not until justdave finishes some type of script to move the component (afaik). --> mozilla.org :: www.mozilla.org
Component: *.mozilla.org → www.mozilla.org
Product: Websites → mozilla.org
Version: unspecified → other
Who is resonsible for mozilla.org content right now? Is there agreement that this is the right way to go? Who would take over this effort? Should it be split into several smaller bugs/tasks? Bug 341804, which I just filed, should be a small step in this direction which is not covered yet in the comments in this bug.
Restructuring the projects page is out of the scope of this bug, and should be taken to the newsgroups, as Bugzilla is no discussion forum. I don't think any project can be deleted from such a list completely, but that's all up the website maintainers and Mozilla Foundation, and again should be discussed on the newsgroups.
After a recent mail exchange with Reed, he told me that this is the bug where such (as I propose it) should be discussed. In addition as I read the bug description, item 3 from pkim's list seems to match my proposal pretty good.
OK, it's probably the right bug, but I feel we need some discussion for get the details done correctly, but I refuse to do lengthy discussion in bug reports as they're just not discussion forums. I'd have some comments about your proposal, but I'll only make them in a newsgroup thread, as Bugzilla doesn't work well for real discussions.
I posted my thoughts in the mozilla.dev.mozilla-org newsgroup. See http://groups.google.de/group/mozilla.dev.mozilla-org/browse_frm/thread/6f57629383cab883/644d58ed5f93e309#644d58ed5f93e309 Please reply to my post with your thoughts on this matter.
Now that the Projects page on www.mozilla.org has been updated, let's take another look at this bug. To address pkim's original points: > 3. Create a new main page for Mozilla Projects that splits out the various > .org projects into three categories: applications, technologies, and > activities, and lists the contents of the current mozilla.org/projects and > mozilla.org/products pages, as well as community activity pages like > spreadfirefox.com. Done. See Bug 393447 for details. Note that the new Projects page doesn't include an Activities section though. IMO, this is something we could put on an updated Community page. > 4. Provide links to mozilla.com/products for people interested in Firefox and > Thunderbird. The new Projects page links directly to both the Firefox and Thunderbird pages on mozilla.com so I'm not sure if also linking to mozilla.com/products is needed. > 1. Assess amount of site content currently living at mozilla.org/products/ to > determine level of redirects, etc. that would be caused by this change. It looks like we should redirect the following pages to www.mozilla.org/projects: http://www.mozilla.org/products/ http://www.mozilla.org/products/choosing-products.html http://www.mozilla.org/download.html > 2. Replace the navigation tab across www.mozilla.org for Products with a tab > for Projects. We just need to make a simple change to the few template pages to switch Products to Projects. I can attach a patch for these changes in a bit.
If we kill download.html, we should also kill those entries in VARIABLES that are only used on that page - that is, if we don't want to keep such a common overview download page.
Assignee: nobody → david
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Attachment #299813 - Flags: review?(reed)
Comment on attachment 299813 [details] [diff] [review] Patch for switching Products to Projects in top-level nav So, what do you think about renaming template-products.html to template-projects.html? I think it's going to be really confusing to still use "products" on pages so that the correct template is used when we really want to use "projects". This will require some work to get right, but I think it's worth it. What do you think?
Renaming template-products.html to template-projects.html is fine with me if it will help avoid confusion in the future. That's a bit out of scope for what I'm able to do though, so I'd be happy to work with someone to make this change.
Note that I just made a new redirect for download.html and didn't change the existing download/ redirect. I don't have the history here so I'm not sure if both of those should be changed or not.
Attachment #299815 - Flags: review?(reed)
Comment on attachment 299813 [details] [diff] [review] Patch for switching Products to Projects in top-level nav Ok, I'll work on renaming it later. Will probably get a cvs copy done since I want to keep the history. This is good enough for a start, though.
Attachment #299813 - Flags: review?(reed) → review+
Comment on attachment 299815 [details] [diff] [review] Patch for redirects for Products to Projects switch >+Redirect permanent /products/index.html http://www.mozilla.org/projects/ I'm curious if this will match for /products/, but we'll see...
Attachment #299815 - Flags: review?(reed) → review+
The Products link in the nav has been switched over to Projects (see bug 433036 for details) but we still need to set up redirects for the Products pages and handle other items mentioned in this bug -- renaming the products template, remove the entries in the VARIABLES file, etc.
Closing as fixed. A new bug was recently opened to deal with the VARIABLES file -- bug 477085. If there are any other files to clean up as part of replacing the Products section with the Projects section, please open a new bug.
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 10 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Component: www.mozilla.org → General
Product: Websites → www.mozilla.org
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