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Smokey Ardisson (offline for a while; not following bugs - do not email): review+
Mike Pinkerton (not reading bugmail): superreview+
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:18.104.22.168) Gecko/20060214 Camino/1.0 Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:22.214.171.124) Gecko/20060214 Camino/1.0 The initial focus in the "Update keychain with new information?" sheet is on "Remember New Values", but it should rather be on "Keep Old Values", so that you can press Return to Remember New and press Space to Keep Old. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Go to a site that requires you to log in every time (that is, one that doesn't "remember" you) and for which you have a username and password in your keychain. 2. Try to login in with a different username. Actual Results: "Update keychain with new information?" sheet appears with focus on Remember New Values. Expected Results: Focus should be on Keep Old Values.
Again, since Esc works properly here, is this really an issue? There's a 1-key solution for each option in a 2-button dialogue.
It's just that there are visual cues/affordances that tell you what Enter and Space will do for any given dialog. Enter presses the default button, which is blue, and Space presses the widget that currently has focus, which is indicated by a blue halo. To me, Escape is the "Abort"/"Bail Out" key and in my mind maps to Cancel, which is not present in most (or even any?) sheets that Camino uses. Having the focus initially on the default button is also not consistent with most Apple apps, by the way. Take TextEdit or Preview, for example. Open a file, do Save As and try to save it over another existing file. The following dialog appears: <filename> already exists. Do you want to replace it? <blah blah blah> Cancel Replace Here, Replace is the default button and the initial focus is on Cancel, which to me is the expected behavior: if there's more than one widget in a dialog, initial focus is consistently not be on the default button. (Yes, I have actually found some dialogs in OS X that are an exception to this rule, but "the exception proves the rule", you know.) Heck, even when I try to save a web page over an existing file with Camino, the behavior is exactly the same: Replace is the default, Cancel has the focus. I don't see why Camino's sheets need to be inconsistent with this.
Created attachment 228015 [details] New Keychain.nib Per IRC, this behavior makes sense, especially since it defaults the "space focus" to the non-destructive "bail out" choice ("Don't Save" in the initial sheet, and "Keep Old Values" in the update sheet). This also changes some of the terminology to match the pref in the Privacy prefpane, addresses bug 325880 comment 2, and brings it up to date with our nib standards. Additionally, it maps the "Never Save for this Website" button to Cmd-N, which adds a nice bit of flavor for the keyboard geeks who try that sort of thing (ie me). ;)
Comment on attachment 228015 [details] New Keychain.nib r=me Mike, see comment 3 for a summary of the changes (some cosmetic, some behavioral).
re: attachment 228016 [details], should that be a ’ in the "Don't Save" button ("smart" apostrophe)?
Created attachment 228047 [details] Same as last, but uses smart apostrophe Yes. Nice catch.
Comment on attachment 228047 [details] Same as last, but uses smart apostrophe You told me you fixed that :P The buttons are only 11px apart in the main sheet now.
Created attachment 228087 [details] More betterer Sorry, miscommunication (I think I thought you were asking about the "Never save" quotes). Fixes 11 px dealy. I could have sworn I checked that... :/
Comment on attachment 228087 [details] More betterer r=me again. Mike, see comment 3 for a summary of the changes (some cosmetic, some behavioral).
so this now defaults to "don't save" in the initial dialog? Why?
The return key is still on "save", so for most users it still defaults to save, but the focus ring for FKA people defaults to "don't save," as the non-destructive "bail out" button. This is relatively consistent across other apps (though it varies).
Comment on attachment 228087 [details] More betterer is don't save mapped to cmd-. or escape? sr=pink
escape (but not cmd-.)
Baking trunk and branch.