329536 - iaa.gov.il - blocks Firefox (but not other Gecko browsers)

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Tech Evangelism Graveyard :: Hebrew, defect)

Description

[mokagi]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; he; rv:1.8.0.1) Gecko/20060111 Firefox/1.5.0.1
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; he; rv:1.8.0.1) Gecko/20060111 Firefox/1.5.0.1

The Israeli IAA site (http://www.iaa.gov.il/) blocks Mozilla based browsers.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Surf to http://www.iaa.gov.il/ with a Mozilla based browser.

Actual Results:  
Site blocks browser

Expected Results:  
Surf in the site and know when planes are landing in the airport!

Comment 1

[Tsahi Asher]

IAA is Israel Airport Authority. probably one of the most important features of its site is the arraivals and departures at Ben Gurion Int'l, Israel's only international airport (and considering regional politics, Israel's main port of any kind).

interestingly, it blocks Firefox, but not SeaMonkey. on SM you just can't see the departures/arrivals list. firefox is redirected to http://www.iaa.gov.il/Rashat/he-IL/Rashot/BrowserSystemMessage.aspx , where it says "the site is intended for internet explorer 5.5 browsers and above".

could someone please change the URL field to http://www.iaa.gov.il ?

Comment 2

[Chris Lawson (gone)]

Hah! This is the reverse of bug 334967; only Firefox is blocked, while other Gecko browsers are let through.

Tsahi, did you ever contact them? This is pretty silly. Then again, maybe we don't want anyone to contact them...they might fix their sniffing so that they actually reject non-Firefox Gecko browsers too. :-p

Comment 3

[Tsahi Asher]

i've probably never contacted them myself about this matter.

Comment 4

[Guy nahari]

i hve talked to them and they said that in september they will publish a temp site the will work with firefox and in the beging of 2010 the will publish a completely new e the support firefox

Comment 5

[Tomer Cohen :tomer]

I am not blocked by using Firefox 3.5.3 (full UA string below). Do you know someone who is still redirected to that blocking page?

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3



Guy - You said they are going to launch new site on September and we are on October. Any news about their plans?

Comment 6

[Tsahi Asher]

i just tried it, and on the first attempt, i was blocked, but subsequent attempts were not blocked. maybe their sniffer is broken too.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; he; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

Comment 7

[Oren Held]

I've re-requested information from them, and got a quick reply today. Here's the summary:
[...removed some less interesting content...]
לאור האמור לעיל החליטה רשות שדות התעופה על פיתוח אתר חדש, אשר יאפשר
נגישות לדפדפנים נוספים. האתר אמור לעלות בשנת 2011.
כדי לתת מענה לזמן הביניים, הרשות משדרגת את תצוגת ההמראות והנחיתות,
המידע המבוקש ביותר באתר, על מנת לאפשר צפייה במידע חיוני זה למרבית סוגי הדפדפנים.
ניתן דגש מיוחד להתאמת המידע לציבור הנעזרים.
לוח הטיסות ייפתח בהתאמה לתקן W3C.
אנו מקווים שהשדרוג יסתיים בתוך כ – 4 חודשים (ואולי אף פחות).
צר לי על אי הנעימות הנגרמת לך ולמשתמשים אחרים בינתיים.

בברכה,
תלמה שמיר
האחראית לטיפול בפניות הציבור
נמל תעופה בן-גוריון

Comment 8

[Tomer Cohen :tomer]

English summary for our non-Hebrew speaking friends - 

a. New website is expected to be launched in 2011.
b. Meanwhile, flight schedule will be supporting Firefox in 4 months (or even sooner) and will be compatible with W3C standard.

Comment 9

[Tomer Cohen :tomer]

Oren have published the full conversation with iaa.gov.il on his own blog - http://israeliweb.blogli.co.il/archives/36 (Hebrew).

Comment 10

[Oren Held]

I've just posted the organization's comments. In short, they claim they upgraded site is going into the testing phase, and it's currently unknown when the upgraded version would be deployed.

http://israeliweb.blogli.co.il/archives/38 (Hebrew)

Comment 11

[Tomer Cohen :tomer]

For the record, we have a userscript to make the website accessible from Firefox, so fixing it won't require more than watching the userscript' source and implementing similar fixes on their side. 

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/14464


This issue is a popular question on LINUX-IL mailing list and other places where using IE is not an option, so we most find a solution. 


Similar issue on Chromium: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=14334 (I can't add it to the related field since it is not a Bugzilla installation there...)

Comment 12

[Tomer Cohen :tomer]

Hello everyone,

Yesterday I was able to use the flight schedules using Firefox 4.0 beta 2 without problems. Seems that they have fixed that, and even added an accessible mode which seems to differ by not using JavaScript. 

Before we close this bug, can you please help me and confirm that everything is working well on that site? 

http://www.iaa.gov.il/Rashat/he-IL/Airports/BenGurion/InformationforTravelers/OnlineFlights

Comment 13

[Tsahi Asher]

seems to work, ff 3.6.8.