359500 - [csb] Kashubian: Firefox

Status: RESOLVED INCOMPLETE

(Mozilla Localizations :: Registration & Management, defect)

Description

[Michal Ostrowski]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; csb; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061010 Firefox/2.0
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; csb; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061010 Firefox/2.0

I would like to start a new translation of Firefox into Kashubian language. 

Details: 

name: Michal Ostrowski, 
email: [e-mail]

language code: csb
NATIONCODE: pl

Reproducible: Always

Comment 1

[Marek Stępień [:marcoos, inactive]]

Confirming the bug. The l10n code should be just "csb" (ISO-639-2).

Some more information:
* the Kashubian language has official status in Poland as a regional language in the Pomerania region, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashubian_language for details
* Michal's team has also done Kashubian localization of K-Meleon, KDE and Ubuntu (linuxcsb.org)

If needed, either I or gandalf can vouch here.

Comment 2

[Zibi Braniecki [:zbraniecki][:gandalf]]

I could vouch here after reviewing Michal's package.

Michal, please attach here Fx2 l10n bits that you translated already

Comment 3

[Michal Ostrowski]

Attachment: Some translations of Fx2

I tried to choose only those files that are fully translated into Kashubian, although it could happen that I include also a few partially translated.

Comment 4

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

I should probably post this somewhere more public, but we're on a stall for new languages until we have resolved some of our growth problems in l10n.

Comment 5

[Michal Ostrowski]

I hope it will not take long time... Anyway, we're still translating. Please inform us when it will be possible to become official l10n team. 

Comment 6

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

On behalf of the Mozilla Project, I'd like to apologise for the delay in processing this request. We very much appreciate offers of help in localization.

If anyone reading this is still interested in helping to translate one or more Mozilla products into the language that this bug is about, please add a new comment to this bug to confirm your interest, saying again which products you would like to localize e.g., Firefox, Thunderbird. We will then make the necessary arrangements.

Comment 7

[Michal Ostrowski]

Good to hear that! I'm still very interested in translating Firefox.

Comment 8

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

Great :-) You need to read this wiki page:
http://wiki.mozilla.org/L10n:Starting_a_localization

Create yourself a wiki page for your localisation, which registers you as the team for that language. Then, follow the instructions on the wiki to produce a language pack you can distribute through addons.mozilla.org. Once you have reached that stage, we can consider your pack for official status - although I should warn you that this is a separate process with its own complexities. Still, the community will still be able to get your pack from addons.mozilla.org in the meantime.

If you have read carefully and find the documentation isn't good enough in any way, please let us know and we will improve it.

Gerv

Comment 9

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

The attachment looks promising so far, 103 files, 162 files missing still, though.

Comment 10

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

Michal: how are you doing? Have you been able to make any more progress?

Gerv

Comment 11

[Michal Ostrowski]

I have a lot of work done now. Unfortunately mostly for FF 2.x. What I've already finished or almost finished (for 2.x) is: Browser, Dom, Reporter, Minimo, Netwerk, Other-Licences, Security, and Toolkit folders. I haven't done anything in Calendar or Mail folders. Now I'm moving all that I've done to FF 3.x. As for now, I have 100% done in Browser folder. Other folders will be ready within two or three weeks.

Comment 12

[Hubert Gajewski]

You can forget about calendar and mail folders. Firefox doesn't contain files from these folders. Calendar is required for Sunbird and Lightning, mail is required for Thunderbird.

Comment 13

[Marek Stępień [:marcoos, inactive]]

Only these folders are needed for Firefox:

browser/
dom/
extensions/
netwerk/ 	
other-licenses/branding/firefox
security/
toolkit/

If you really have them "almost finished", it should still be possible to have csb in for a 2.0.0.x release.

Comment 14

[Michal Ostrowski]

Marek, you are right, but moving to FF3 is much slower than we thought before and working with more than one translation would be problem for us. Some changes and revisions in our translation are necesary due to newly published documents by Kashubian Language Council (some minor grammar and spelling changes).

Comment 15

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Despite what Marek said we're unlikely to be taking on more languages in addition to those already in the queue for fx2. We could get a language up on AMO for Firefox 2, though.

Firefox 3 work is now in string freeze already, that means there will only be a few more string changes busting that freeze.

Comment 16

[Seth Bindernagel]

(In reply to comment #14)
> Marek, you are right, but moving to FF3 is much slower than we thought before
> and working with more than one translation would be problem for us. Some
> changes and revisions in our translation are necesary due to newly published
> documents by Kashubian Language Council (some minor grammar and spelling
> changes).

Hi Michal:

Hope you are doing well.  I am not sure where you are in your localization effort at this time.  Have you progressed further with FF3?

If you have, thank you for all of your work at localizing.  We're at the unique point of determining if you should localize for Firefox 3 or move onto localizing for Firefox 3.1, depending on your availability and interest.

If you are interested in working on *something* that is stable, you can continue to focus on localizing Firefox 3.  We can get stable builds going for you.  However, we will eventually ship your work in Firefox 3.1 and you will need to update the effort you are putting into Firefox 3 right now.  The good news is that the string changes from Fx 3 --> Fx 3.1 are presently small in number (~30), so the update should not be too much too handle.  

However, if you are interested in moving your effort toward localizing Firefox 3.1, then you can read the following documentation on working with Mercurial and getting a local environment set up on your machine.

http://developer.mozilla.org/en/L10n_on_Mercurial

or learn the basics about Mercurial here:

http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mercurial

Thanks so much for your hard work.  As always, ping us with any questions, we are ready to help.

Kind regards,
Sethb

Comment 17

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

There hasn't been a lot of activity here lately, thus I'm resolving this bug INCOMPLETE.

If there is activity again, please feel free to reopen or file a new bug. Thanks.