374257 - Create menu reference page for Thunderbird 2

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(www.mozilla.org :: General, defect)

Description

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

The Firefox help site has a menu reference page, but the Thunderbird help site doesn't. I've been working on a Thunderbird menu reference page, to be pushed when Thunderbird 2 is released.

The HTML file itself, is already in the web-tree (it's the Firefox 1 menu reference). I'll commit the Thunderbird version, when I have a draft ready for review.

Comment 1

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

First draft is up at <http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/menu>.
Most of the content is taken from <http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Help_Documentation:Menu_Reference>; but the wiki page is missing many newsgroup items, has unfilled definitions, and is out of date.

Given what I've added vs. what is on the wiki page, there are probably some consistency issues, spelling issues, grammar issues, and menu items in different spots on non-windows operating systems.

Comment 2

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

I just noticed I didn't define Move/Copy Again.
http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/menu#messagemovecopyagain

Comment 3

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

(In reply to comment #2)
> I just noticed I didn't define Move/Copy Again.
> http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/menu#messagemovecopyagain

Ditto with the error console. I really don't know how to define what the error console does in Thunderbird.

Comment 4

[Ray Kiddy]

I am sure there is a log function in the code set up just to log messages to this console. Find that and one will find the things that get logged there. I imaging SMTP and NNTP error messages are on the list.

Also, I wanted to mention that it would be good to be able to specify when a menu item in enabled and what the menu item does when certain things in the UI are selected.

I am not sure of the best way to describe this enabled-ness and the differing behaviors, but I will try something.

Comment 5

[Magnus Melin [:mkmelin]]

The Error Console shows errors/warnings when something goes wrong in extensions or the Thunderbird UI code. (SMTP, POP etc. logs have to be created using http://www.mozilla.org/quality/mailnews/mail-troubleshoot.html#imap)

The Error Console also shows CSS problems in feed pages.

Comment 6

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

I've updated the page, with these updates:
- file>new>folder only appears for email/RSS
- file>new>savedsearch links to a page about saved searches and only appears for email/RSS
- file>new>account links to tutorial about creating an account
- file>open saved message only does EML files
- file>attachments>detach and delete all only apply to email
- file>saveas get rid of 'MS'.
- file>get all new messages is only for email and RSS
- file>send unsent messages redone to say sent messages in the *Unsent folder*
- compact mail folders is rewritten, to actually explain what it does
- delete folder only appears for mail and RSS, when a folder pane is selected
- delete message only appears for mail and RSS when a message is selected
- find in this message is now a find bar, and buttons have appropriate styles
- favorite folder should state the whole view menu path
- add preferences to Edit menu
- toolbar customize has menu style on "Customize" in description
- view>Folders has a description
- view>textsize links to keyboard shortcuts page
- go>next etc. selects next message in the current folder *or newsgroup*.
- go>mailstartpage should say message pane, not view pane
- reply to newsgroup uses better wording than "click on this"
- message>move is only available for email and RSS accounts
- Move/Copy message has a description:
Move or Copy the currently selected message to the same location you last moved or copied a message to.
- message>mark>addstar had star spelled as start
- error console had a bad anchor name
- error console has a description:
The Error Console shows errors/warnings when something goes wrong in extensions
or the Thunderbird UI code, and also shows CSS problems in feed pages.
- help>ThunderbirdHelp opens web site not web page

Anyone know how recently a folder has to have been viewed, in order for it to appear in recent folders view? 

Other than that, I would consider the page to be ready. When Tb2 is released, I'll add the Menu Reference item to the navigation menu on all other pages in the Thunderbird Help site, and mark this bug as fixed.

Comment 7

[Chris Andrichak]

minor:
Edit->Preferences
-also not shown on the Mac, use Thunderbird->Preferences instead

Comment 8

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

Where is the "Thunderbird" menu, in the series? Is it before or after "File"?
We'll need to change this on the Firefox pages as well.

Comment 9

[Chris Andrichak]

Attachment: screenshot of tbird mac menubar

'Thunderbird' is first - in MacOSX, the app name menu is always first

Comment 10

[Chris Andrichak]

Attachment: screenshot mac firefox menubar

Comment 11

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

I noticed the screenshot has an item "About Mail/News Client". Does "About Mozilla Thunderbird" still appear in the Help menu on Mac?

Right now, I think I'll just mention Thunderbird-->Preferences for Mac in the descriptions, rather than create another listing.

Comment 12

[Ray Kiddy]

The "About Mozilla Thunderbird" appears on the Mac as the top menu item of the "Thunderbird" menu, the first one on the left.

The "Help" menu has the menu items: "Mozilla Thunderbird Help", "Release Notes", "------", "Check for Updates...".

Comment 13

[Chris Andrichak]

sorry, I'm running a custom build due to an imap server bug I have to work around, so my application is named 'Mail/News' instead of Thunderbird - only official builds can be named Thunderbird. You can use them interchangeably for this purpose, though.

Comment 14

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

Checking in menu.html;
/www/mozilla-org/html/support/thunderbird/menu.html,v  <--  menu.html
new revision: 1.6; previous revision: 1.5
done

I've added references to the Mac OS X application menu in the descriptions for Edit-->Preferences, Tools-->Options, and Help-->About_Mozilla_Thunderbird.

Comment 15

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

How about Account Settings? Is that under Tools for Mac and Linux?

Comment 16

[Magnus Melin [:mkmelin]]

"Account Settings..." is above Preferences (in the Edit menu) on Linux.

Comment 17

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

Glad I asked. :-) Can any Mac users tell me if Account Settings is under Tools on the Mac version?

Comment 18

[Chris Andrichak]

yes, account settings is on the tools menu on the mac also.

Comment 19

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

Checking in menu.html;
/www/mozilla-org/html/support/thunderbird/menu.html,v  <--  menu.html
new revision: 1.7; previous revision: 1.6
done

Thanks again. I'm also accepting donations for a Macbook Pro w/Parallels; so I don't have to get confirmation on all these platform specific details. :-)

Comment 20

[Reed Loden [:reed]]

(In reply to comment #19)
> Thanks again. I'm also accepting donations for a Macbook Pro w/Parallels; so I
> don't have to get confirmation on all these platform specific details. :-)

Have you contacted Seth Bindernagel of the Mozilla Community Program? http://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:CommunityProgram

Comment 21

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

No. That hadn't crossed my mind.

Comment 22

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

Checking in bugs.html;
/www/mozilla-org/html/support/thunderbird/bugs.html,v  <--  bugs.html
new revision: 1.8; previous revision: 1.7
done
Checking in contact.html;
/www/mozilla-org/html/support/thunderbird/contact.html,v  <--  contact.html
new revision: 1.5; previous revision: 1.4
done
Checking in edit.html;
/www/mozilla-org/html/support/thunderbird/edit.html,v  <--  edit.html
new revision: 1.13; previous revision: 1.12
done
Checking in faq.html;
/www/mozilla-org/html/support/thunderbird/faq.html,v  <--  faq.html
new revision: 1.28; previous revision: 1.27
done
Checking in forums.html;
/www/mozilla-org/html/support/thunderbird/forums.html,v  <--  forums.html
new revision: 1.6; previous revision: 1.5
done
Checking in index.html;
/www/mozilla-org/html/support/thunderbird/index.html,v  <--  index.html
new revision: 1.21; previous revision: 1.20
done
Checking in keyboard.html;
/www/mozilla-org/html/support/thunderbird/keyboard.html,v  <--  keyboard.html
new revision: 1.16; previous revision: 1.15
done
Checking in mouse.html;
/www/mozilla-org/html/support/thunderbird/mouse.html,v  <--  mouse.html
new revision: 1.7; previous revision: 1.6
done
Checking in profile.html;
/www/mozilla-org/html/support/thunderbird/profile.html,v  <--  profile.html
new revision: 1.10; previous revision: 1.9
done
Checking in tips.html;
/www/mozilla-org/html/support/thunderbird/tips.html,v  <--  tips.html
new revision: 1.15; previous revision: 1.14
done

Tb2 is out.