Last Comment Bug 402155 - The graphical output generator should support a BiDi-output paramer in order to facilitate BiDi reading
: The graphical output generator should support a BiDi-output paramer in order ...
Status: UNCONFIRMED
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Product: Firefox
Classification: Client Software
Component: General (show other bugs)
: unspecified
: All All
: -- enhancement with 3 votes (vote)
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Assigned To: Nobody; OK to take it and work on it
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Mentors:
http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/?title...
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Reported: 2007-11-01 19:40 PDT by lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט
Modified: 2010-10-06 15:31 PDT (History)
1 user (show)
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Attachments
explanations about supposed enhanced BiDi rendering (55.29 KB, image/jpeg)
2007-11-01 19:44 PDT, lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט
no flags Details
bug_landfill_bugzilla_003304_·_BiDi_readability_problem_·_01_02.html (2.18 KB, text/html)
2007-11-29 12:51 PST, lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט
no flags Details
bug_landfill_bugzilla_003304_·_BiDi_readability_problem_·_02_02.html (3.10 KB, text/html)
2007-11-29 12:58 PST, lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט
no flags Details

Description lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2007-11-01 19:40:52 PDT
User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070427 Firefox/2.0.0.3
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070427 Firefox/2.0.0.3

Dear friends,

Please see also
http://landfill.bugzilla.org/gangleri/show_bug.cgi?id=3304
and attachment
http://landfill.bugzilla.org/gangleri/attachment.cgi?id=407 and
http://landfill.bugzilla.org/gangleri/attachment.cgi?id=434

I assume that you agree with me that only a few of the millions of users understand the BiDi algorithm and can read a page containing both RTL and LTR text immediatelly as it whas intended by the page designers.

This is a request for an enhancement which should allow a better readability of page containing both RTL and LTR scripts. I assume that a good approach would be to distinguish the change of directionality in a BiDi text by vertically offsetting the text a few pixels.

As it intended as an example the default rendering of the pages should be as it is now.

Thanks for all your efforts in advance!
Best regards Reinhardt [[user:Gangleri]]

note: The wiki pages '&action=credits' are generated automatically. The order of users mentioned there and the directionality of the user names is arbitrary. This is why the (originak) URL
http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/?title=Main_Page&action=credits
may render differently as seen in the screen dumps.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
please open the original URL
( http://nike.users.idler.fi/dev/?title=Main_Page&action=credits )
and resize the window that way that
נעבעך גוט משוגע
renders on two lines.


Expected Results:  
Will be posted as an attachment.
Comment 1 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2007-11-01 19:44:28 PDT
Created attachment 287038 [details]
explanations about supposed enhanced BiDi rendering
Comment 2 Simon Montagu :smontagu 2007-11-04 23:53:08 PST
I think this would be more appropriate for an extension than in core code. Only a small niche of users would want or need something like this, since most users are either comfortable reading RTL text without the extra help, or don't know and don't care.
Comment 3 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2007-11-29 12:51:49 PST
Created attachment 290729 [details]
bug_landfill_bugzilla_003304_·_BiDi_readability_problem_·_01_02.html

adding two attachments which seem to be corrupted at

http://landfill.bugzilla.org/gangleri/show_bug.cgi?id=3304

now adding a modified version of
http://landfill.bugzilla.org/gangleri/attachment.cgi?id=471
Comment 4 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2007-11-29 12:55:24 PST
re: comment #3

please note that
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.mozilla.org%2Fattachment.cgi%3Fid%3D290729&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
shows
* This Page Is Valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional! *
while
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Flandfill.bugzilla.org%2Fgangleri%2Fattachment.cgi%3Fid%3D471&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
shows
* This page is not Valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional! *
* Result: 	Failed validation, 7 Errors *
Comment 5 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2007-11-29 12:58:22 PST
Created attachment 290730 [details]
bug_landfill_bugzilla_003304_·_BiDi_readability_problem_·_02_02.html

adding the seccond attachment which seem to be corrupted at

http://landfill.bugzilla.org/gangleri/show_bug.cgi?id=3304

now adding a modified version of
http://landfill.bugzilla.org/gangleri/attachment.cgi?id=474
Comment 6 lɛʁi לערי ריינהארט 2007-11-29 13:12:00 PST
re: comment #5

please note that
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.mozilla.org%2Fattachment.cgi%3Fid%3D290730&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0shows
* This Page Is Valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional! *
while
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Flandfill.bugzilla.org%2Fgangleri%2Fattachment.cgi%3Fid%3D474&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
shows
* This page is not Valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional! *
* Result: 	Failed validation, 7 Errors *

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summary: because I used the same PC and the same editor to "adjust" the line breaks / new lines the issue about the broken attachments at the http://landfill.bugzilla.org/gangleri/ is a marginal issue.

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background:

My goal was to provide a simpler example to demonstrate how line wraping behaves with bidirectional text.

Doing the documentation / the example I remembered one of the two methods to limit the impact of the bidirectional algorithm on variable input text. The « nowrap » trick can not be abused because from a given size of the inclusions inside the « span's »  it will break the page design.

Best regards Reinhardt [[user;Gangleri]]
Comment 7 Tyler Downer [:Tyler] 2010-10-06 11:15:37 PDT
This is a mass search for bugs that are in the Firefox General component, are UNCO, and have not been changed for 1000 days and have an unspecified version. 

Reporter, can you please update to Firefox 3.6.10, create a fresh profile, http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/managing+profiles, and test again. If you still see the bug, please update this bug. If the issue is gone, please set the resolution to RESOLVED > WORKSFORME.

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