Closed
Bug 414989
Opened 18 years ago
Closed 17 years ago
Affiliate Program for Spread Firefox - determining affiliate downloads
Categories
(Websites Graveyard :: spreadfirefox.com, defect, P1)
Websites Graveyard
spreadfirefox.com
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(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
FIXED
People
(Reporter: drolnitzky, Assigned: abuchanan)
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(1 file, 4 obsolete files)
For version 2 of the affiliate program, we'd like to be able to connect downloads referred by individual members of the affiliate program. Currently we can only determine clicks to the Firefox download page.
In order to better connect downloads referred by specific affiliates, we'll need to be able to carry the referral string from each individual download button/banner through to the firefox download page to the redirected download.html page. The user should get an offer of a specific build of Firefox with an AUS channel set specifically to the affiliate program.
This bug should specifically address the dev changes that need to be done to the mozilla.com site (specifically the Firefox download page) in order for this referral string to carry-through properly.
Comment 1•18 years ago
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I discussed this a bit with David last week. I had thoughts on how to do this, and here are some steps to discuss:
- add sfx id as a query param that gets sent to mozilla.com
- add logic to mozilla.com to retain that id to send to download.html
- backfill sfx affiliate counts based on download.html stats based on sfx
Some areas for concern:
- how do we retain the sfx id with caching enabled? I think PHP would be fine since the URL is unique, and if it gets cached it's not a big deal.
- are these changes to mozilla.com okay with the owners? clouserw/pkim/jslater?
David, what's your tentative schedule for this project?
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Comment 2•18 years ago
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Thanks Mike.
In terms of schedule, ideally we'd be able to have a solution in place by mid March, with a Affiliates Program "relaunch" sometime early in Q2. Let me know how this sounds.
Copying pkim to confirm these changes to mozilla.com are ok and Justin to keep him in the loop.
Comment 3•18 years ago
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I have also posted a ticket here https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417443
which relates to this topic matter.
Thanks Paul
Comment 5•18 years ago
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I think the best way to do this would be to put in some js on the download page and have it look for an aid and sfx in $_GET. When it finds them, it does an xmlhttprequest to a script on spreadfirefox.com that does the tracking. The remote script would have to handle any spam/duplicate logic.
Can spreadfirefox handle the extra traffic? Does that sound like a reasonable solution?
Comment 6•18 years ago
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Thats sound v.good to me .
We have some code on spreadfirefox that can prevent spam by ip/referrer
and that allows only a single referral event from an IP within a 24 hour period
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Comment 7•18 years ago
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Sounds great guys. What are next steps to implementing?
Comment 8•18 years ago
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We need to place some javascript on the download button
onclick="startInstallation(); .. "
with startInstallation() calling a 'page' somewhere to update our affiliates table , this would be something along the lines ..
function startInstallation() {
try {
var req = new XMLHttpRequest();
req.open("GET", page, false);
req.send("");
} catch (e) {}
}
I'll look at writing the server page tomorrow that captures the download referral on the server.
Paul
Comment 9•18 years ago
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I think the next steps are:
1) Create server page to capture download counts
2) Load test server page to make sure it can handle the amount of traffic we'll send at it (or get r+ from IT)
3) Create patch for mozilla.com and request review here
Comment 10•18 years ago
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1) Create server page to capture download counts
This has now been implememented as follows ..
When an affiliate referral is now redirected to the download page we pass the uid of the affiliate and an aid specific to the affiliate referral event.
Later if you were to do an XMLHTTPREQUEST to go to www.spreadfirefox.com/node/&uid-..&aid=.. when someone clicks on the download button to download firefox then this will result in a call to
_sfx_affiliate_referral_download_event() in our sfx_affiliates module which will register the affiliate referral event as leading to a download event.
These changes have been committed with revision 10559.
http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/spreadfirefox.com/trunk/modules/sfx/sfx_affiliates/sfx_affiliates.module?r1=10328&r2=10559
Comment 11•18 years ago
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Attachment #304436 -
Flags: review?(morgamic)
Comment 12•18 years ago
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I'll now give attention to the code that will generate reports from the collected affiliate referral download data.
<Alix> Are we going to modify our current program so that we measure only affiliated downloads and no longer give consideration to affiliate referrals in all of our reports (Top 5 Affiliates ,..) ?</Alix>
Paul
Comment 13•18 years ago
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<Alix>
I have made the final modifications to the sfx_affiliates module so that the code now generates reports from the collected affiliate referral download data. Ill hold these changes back though until we decide how we are going to make the transition to the affiliates downloads program.
I would say a lot of people already think we are measuring downloads in fact there are two posts now on the main page that are highlighting the 500+ millions
downloads.
How do you see the transition taking place ?
I personally would like to do something close to the following ...
0. Publicly explain the change over fully so everyone knows what the current affiliate program measures and what the new program measures
1. Create a static page with information about our most active affiliate referers to date and perhaps a static block on the front page for a time giving some publicity to our top 10 affiliate referers of all time.
2. Start the new affiliate download program with everybody begining with 0
affiliate referral downloads
Looking forward to seeing the new affiliate program up and running
Paul
</Alix>
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Comment 14•18 years ago
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I agree that some education is in order here and your #0 and #1 points above make sense. However, I think we can do some basic math to approximate the number of downloads of all the current affiliates. I've estimated that the click-->download rate is about 22%. While this is a *very rough* approximation based on a limited set of data, we could apply a similar factor to all affiliate "clicks" and come up with a standard way to convert clicks to downloads. I believe that would be a better transition than starting everyone from 0.
As a next step, I will work on some copy for this transition that we will post. We'll also need to revise the existing content about how the program works. Once we have that in place, we can flip the switch and push the new code to staging (if we have staging) and then live.
How does that sound to everyone?
Will the current copy-paste code on the affiliates page buttons need to be revised? Assuming that since it has a referring id in it already that we don't need to change it.
Before we push the download counting change live, we'll also want to spin up a custom build of Firefox that will have a unique AUS channel so that we can track the affiliate program active usage (in aggregate) as we do other partner builds and how we did funnel-cake. This build will need to be available for anyone who hits the download page with a referring url of the affiliate program.
Comment 15•18 years ago
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I personally think it would be nice to see and be able to say that since such and such a day this amount of people have been to my site clicked on my banner and downloaded firefox (fact) rather than seeing a figure that i know represents an approximate guess of the number of downloads + number of actual downloads. Thats just my opinion but i would imagine there are other who want to see a big figure there what ever it means ;-)
Yes we have a staging area on mozilla server .
"Will the current copy-paste code on the affiliates page buttons need to be
revised? " .. nothing needs to be changed here David
I didn't get what that AUS channel was about until know , very interesting .
Comment 17•18 years ago
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Comment on attachment 304436 [details] [diff] [review]
sfx_affiliates.module patch
Paul, can you submit an patch against current trunk? Thanks.
Attachment #304436 -
Flags: review?(morgamic) → review-
Comment 18•18 years ago
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I pulled the sfx_affiliates.module from trunk and can see the that all changes have been commited as per the patch
Comment 19•18 years ago
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Would you let me know please if the changes are ok to push through to production. Alix will advise when this can be done
Thanks
Paul
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Comment 20•18 years ago
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Is there a way to test this on trunk and make sure that we are indeed counting downloads with this new patch?
Comment 21•18 years ago
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Not presently .
On my local machine running spreadfirefox i can ..
click on a link ..
http://spreadfirefox2:8888/node&id=103751&t=216
which take me to mozilla , download marked as not done..
http://en.www.mozilla.com/en/firefox/?from=sfx&uid=103751&aid=1310478
then if i simulate the XMLHTTREQUEST to the server on clicking the download button, ie click on the link..
http://spreadfirefox2:8888/node&uid=103751&aid=1310478
the download is marked as done
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Comment 22•18 years ago
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Mike/Wil -- any thoughts on next steps for verifying this?
@ Paul - do we have the database reporting setup to enable users to receive points from downloads? Or are points still equivalent to clicks?
@ Kev - we're also looking to get a build of Firefox spun which is an exact copy of vinalla flavored firefox but which has a distinct AUS channel for the affiliate channel. What are next steps to making this the default offer for anyone who lands on mozilla.com via an affiliate button/link?
Comment 23•18 years ago
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(In reply to comment #22)
> Mike/Wil -- any thoughts on next steps for verifying this?
I wrote my ideas in comment #9 and it looks like we're on step #2 now.
Comment 24•18 years ago
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What is the peak requests per second we will expect from this?
Comment 25•18 years ago
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A rough guess from looking at urchin stats for the download page says about 3 or 4 hits per second. Maybe someone else has a better idea of how to judge that? Marketing did some campaigns once - that might give better numbers.
Comment 26•18 years ago
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We can start with that number. If I set up a sfx instance what URL should I be testing?
Comment 27•18 years ago
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At lunch morgamic mentioned pulling all this data from the spreadfirefox logs. Seems like a way better idea since no call to spreadfirefox would be required.
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Comment 28•18 years ago
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Is that a manual process or can we setup some sort of feed?
Comment 29•18 years ago
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It would be a cron job, so it would run it on a certain interval.
Comment 30•18 years ago
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(In reply to comment #22)
> Mike/Wil -- any thoughts on next steps for verifying this?
>
> @ Paul - do we have the database reporting setup to enable users to receive
> points from downloads? Or are points still equivalent to clicks?
>
Currently we have the drupal code that captures user clicks / downloads but only generates report for clicks . Also i have a patch which which will generate reports for downloads only
Comment 31•18 years ago
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Is this bug still active its currently assigned to "Nobody"
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Comment 32•18 years ago
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Hi all -- per comment #9, looks like we're on step #3 here.
Morgamic/Wil -- let me know who I should assign this too.
Paul -- what are next steps to implement the drupal code so that we can get download reporting?
We'll also have to spin up a build for this -- should just be a generic build of Firefox with a unique AUS channel set (and designated for the affiliate program).
Comment 33•18 years ago
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(In reply to comment #32)
> Hi all -- per comment #9, looks like we're on step #3 here.
>
> Morgamic/Wil -- let me know who I should assign this too.
>
> Paul -- what are next steps to implement the drupal code so that we can get
> download reporting?
>
I just need to roll the attached patch again
> We'll also have to spin up a build for this -- should just be a generic build
> of Firefox with a unique AUS channel set (and designated for the affiliate
> program).
>
Comment 34•18 years ago
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Comment 35•18 years ago
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I'll be around this evening David if you want this patch on stage today so we can test everything and push to production.
Do we have a new schedule for completing the changes to the affiliate program ?
Regards Paul
Comment 36•18 years ago
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Modifications that allow tracking of affiliate referral downloads instead of just affiliate referrals
Attachment #304436 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #322100 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #322118 -
Flags: review?
Comment 37•18 years ago
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(In reply to comment #32)
> Hi all -- per comment #9, looks like we're on step #3 here.
You're skipping step #2 and comment #27 - comment #29.
I may be completely wrong but is this something omniture has built in? Oremj would know for sure - if not, ignore me. :)
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Comment 38•18 years ago
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With omniture, we could somehow incorporate an tag onto each button or banner so that we could see the clicks and downloads. However, I don't think we'd be able to pull this download data dynamically into the affiliate program rankings. And we'd somehow have to generate those tags dynamically for each affiliate ID and banner type. But Oremj could probably clarify.
In terms of timing -- a relaunch of the Affiliates Program is a goal for this quarter (so up and running by end of June). I consider the change to download counting as an integral part of the relaunch.
Comment 39•18 years ago
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Alex, could you take a look at this? Let's talk about it on Monday.
Assignee: nobody → buchanae
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Comment 40•18 years ago
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I like the parsing logs option (or using omniture if possible) because...
- we lower traffic over sfx.com
- there are people & tools around that rock at parsing our logs for stats
- no need to load test sfx.com, or touch the code base
If we gather stats from logs, do we even need to hit sfx.com? Reason I ask is that the current model means the entire Drupal system has to be loaded for every affiliate redirect
Is there a difference between parsing sfx logs and moz.com logs?
For example, could we...
- in the affiliate button code, link directly to target site
* (only 2 currently; mozilla.com and the mozilla store)
* use a link like comment #21
http://en.www.mozilla.com/en/firefox/?from=sfx&uid=103751&aid=1310478
- on target site, carry params through if appropriate
- mozilla.com, carry through to download.m.c link (or moz-eur,china redirect)
- link to SFX affiliates build
- parse target site traffic logs, look for SFX parameters
- put parse script on a cron job to tally SFX affiliate count once every ______
Also,
oremj: (or someone who knows): does Omniture provide an API or someway so we can access stats programmatically? So that we could transfer stats from Omniture to the SFX DB. Also, is this use allowed by the license? How do Omniture tags work?
^^ my 2 cents for today, please correct me if I'm wrong/dumb about anything
Comment 41•18 years ago
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I think it is possible to export reports in excel or CSV format and we could group the from and uid query parameter for a custom report. I'm not sure how feasible it is to export the document via a script.
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Comment 42•17 years ago
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so does comment #40 sound like a reasonable solution?
Paul/clouserw anything I'm missing?
I'm working on the code, want to know any hang ups before I get too deep into it.
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Comment 43•17 years ago
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Re: omniture tracking. Ideally we'd be able to populate a static omniture tracking code within the each button's code on the affiliate button page. For example, something like:
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node&id=187399&t=307?utm_source=sfx&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=80x15&utm_campaign=sfx
Question is: will the utm paramaters carry through the url after the redirect and will it show properly in omniture? Is there a way to generate this code to every banner that's posted?
If we're able to add this, this will be extremely helpful in being able to evaluate the performance of the program in addition to download tracking and active users (via custom build).
Comment 44•17 years ago
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Very insightful Alex , please find my replies inline ..
(In reply to comment #40)
> I like the parsing logs option (or using omniture if possible) because...
> - we lower traffic over sfx.com
> - there are people & tools around that rock at parsing our logs for stats
> - no need to load test sfx.com, or touch the code base
We should definitely do this if there are tools that allow us to easily implement this approach
>
> If we gather stats from logs, do we even need to hit sfx.com?
No we don't . We could pull the apache logs daily somewhere parse the logs and then add the new records to the affiliates table
Reason I ask is
> that the current model means the entire Drupal system has to be loaded for
> every affiliate redirect
Yes , that's a good point.
>
> Is there a difference between parsing sfx logs and moz.com logs?
>
> For example, could we...
> - in the affiliate button code, link directly to target site
> * (only 2 currently; mozilla.com and the mozilla store)
> * use a link like comment #21
> http://en.www.mozilla.com/en/firefox/?from=sfx&uid=103751&aid=1310478
Yep , we can do this
>
> - on target site, carry params through if appropriate
> - mozilla.com, carry through to download.m.c link (or moz-eur,china redirect)
> - link to SFX affiliates build
Yep , you can do that
>
> - parse target site traffic logs, look for SFX parameters
> - put parse script on a cron job to tally SFX affiliate count once every
We will need to populate the 'affiliate' table with all the affiliate referral events so that the affiliate module can generate all of our reports as seen
@ http://www.spreadfirefox.com/admin/affiliates/
______
>
>
> Also,
> oremj: (or someone who knows): does Omniture provide an API or someway so we
> can access stats programmatically? So that we could transfer stats from
> Omniture to the SFX DB. Also, is this use allowed by the license? How do
> Omniture tags work?
>
>
> ^^ my 2 cents for today, please correct me if I'm wrong/dumb about anything
>
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Comment 45•17 years ago
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is there any difference between $uid and $aid? I think this is probably a subtlety of the SFX affiliate module, just wondering if they are both necessary, because affiliates are just SFX users right? Can we just track them with their user ID ($uid)?
Comment 46•17 years ago
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aid : affiliate id which is unique to a particular affiliate referral
uid : user id of the user aka affiliate
Comment 47•17 years ago
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Hi all, I was just wondering what the status was on this and what we need to do to keep this going.
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Comment 48•17 years ago
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Juliana,
hey, sorry to let this bug go stale. I have been working on this. I have some code for mozilla.com and a start on the log parse script. I will clean up the mozilla.com code and post it here soon for approval. The log parse script needs some work to tally and parse results. soo...
what's left,
1) get mozilla.com code reviewed/accepted
2) finish log parse script
3) rework SFX affiliate button code
3) work on getting custom builds from download.m.o (custom AUS channel)
4) test the final setup
5) work with IT to put things in place
6) launch new buttons, site content, etc on SFX
Juliana, or whoever is heading this project, what kind of launch schedule do you have in mind? Webdev seems to have a lot of priority projects going on, and the summit coming up, so let's set up a schedule.
Comment 49•17 years ago
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Hi Alex,
Thanks so much for the speedy response. This bug is part of a Q3 goal to relaunch the Spread Firefox Affiliates Program. So I was hoping that this could be ready to roll out with the other changes to the program by the end of Q3.
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Updated•17 years ago
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Component: www.mozilla.com → spreadfirefox.com
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Updated•17 years ago
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OS: Mac OS X → All
Priority: -- → P1
Hardware: PC → All
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Comment 50•17 years ago
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Attachment #322118 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #322118 -
Flags: review?
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Comment 51•17 years ago
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to install the attached script,
1) set DB settings to production SFX DB
2) set log dirs for moz-com and dl-moz-org
3) set proper log naming format for moz-com and dl-moz-org
4) should run on cron, once a day
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Comment 52•17 years ago
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new affiliate button code style committed in r18800
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Comment 53•17 years ago
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Attachment #341109 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
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Comment 54•17 years ago
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new script should handle log file naming conventions and multiple files, still needs config for sfx prod DB and log dirs.
should run once a day, preferably in off-peak times (if there is such a thing)
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Updated•17 years ago
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Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 17 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Updated•14 years ago
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Product: Websites → Websites Graveyard
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