418277 - Web services changes for Firefox 3 for Afrikaans (af)

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Mozilla Localizations :: af / Afrikaans, defect)

Description

[Mic Berman]

Tracking bug for search plugins, Live Bookmark and RSS Readers.
Please confirm that you will use the en-US defaults e.g.,
Search plugins: Google, Yahoo, Amazon, eBay, Answers, CC, Wikipedia
Readers: Bloglines, My Yahoo, Google
LB: BBC
Mailto: GMail, YahooMail, Hotmail
Calendar: 30boxes, Google, Yahoo
Thanks

Comment 1

[Simon Paquet [:sipaq]]

Removing [e-mail] from the CC.

1. Firefox l10n bugs aren't relevant to the Calendar Project
2. The af localization team does not support the Calendar Project at the moment.

Comment 2

[Mic Berman]

ping Friedel or Dwayne - assuming you will be using en-US defaults? if so, please indicate so we can close this bug
thanks

Comment 3

[Dwayne Bailey]

Hi Mic - we're defaulting to en-US until we have some time to consult with our community.  The defaults pretty much reflect our usage patterns in South African in any case.

Comment 4

[Mic Berman]

Dwayne - thanks. Fyi, changes are accepted up to final release date +30 days or so. 

Comment 5

[Mic Berman]

friedel or dwayne can you reconfirm the strategy here is to finalize this
before RC1 and use en-US services
also, i found one news source for afrikaans that i thought might be good, i'm
not sure the BBC feed is in afrikaans. here is the one i found:
http://www.news24.com/Beeld/Home/
please advise thanks

Comment 6

[Dwayne Bailey]

Hi Mic, the main rationale was to focus on getting our l10n into FF3 and not being distracted with this just yet.  We're aware of some good feeds, there are others and almost all equally good.

If there is negative impact long term on the FF3 cycle then we can address those so perhpas some feedback from you on what the consequence of waiting till 3.0.1 would be.  If its bad then we'll address this.

Comment 7

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

I just saw a change from wikipedia to wikipedia-af flying by. Though I bet that's ok (Mic?), changes to search should always go through patches in bugs, and through my review queue. The plugin itself is fine, so pending Mic's consent, I can review that as it is in CVS.

Comment 8

[Mic Berman]

yes please always check in for any changes to web services. 
I should ok with wikipedia-af (how do you tell how many articles there are?) if it's incredibly low like less than 1000 then i'll be double checking this authorization with UI/UE team thursday (tomorrow)

Comment 9

[Friedel Wolff]

I guess the docs are out of date at http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3/L10n_Requirements#Search_Plugins where it says "Other locales are welcome to include localized versions of these sites without approval...", so sorry for that. Is there perhaps a newer set of guidelines I should rather be following at this stage? I realise I might have missed some announcements in the mailing list since we initially only focused on getting the UI translations done.

Mic, today there are 9 545 articles in af.wikipedia.org (the bold number in the introductory paragraph of the front page). There might be other easier ways to track the statistics, I'm not sure. In any case, I guess they will pass ten thousand articles before the release of Firefox 3. Can the requirement on the minimum number of articles for Wikipedia perhaps also be mentioned in the docs? Thanks.

Comment 10

[Mic Berman]

Friedel - thanks for that catch! i have updated that page now including a link to our new guidelines for recommended changes. 

Wikipedia - will do. it's a new addition for Firefox 3 and this idea of a minimum has only recently come up. i will do so after my review with UI/UE lead mike beltzner

Comment 11

[Mic Berman]

based on review with Mike Beltzner - there is no minimum for Wikipedia inclusion so we are good to go. 
Thanks again Friedel for pointing out needed update on this page, I have now updated to include new Wikipedia policy: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3/L10n_Requirements#Search_Plugins 

Comment 12

[Mic Berman]

axel, can you confirm on comment #6 we'd be ok to accept an RSS feed change post RC1?

Comment 13

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

The reference for the article count and other good statistics for wikipedia is http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias.

As for the feed, I'd like to have that set for final release, but it's not something we need to get done for RC1 code freeze.

As other things will be important tasks for IT, we should get a good feed settled well before April 24th. Could we fork that into a different bug?

For feed readers, I see the en-US defaults already in the tree, so as far as I can tell, we don't need a new patch?

For future reference, Dwayne, Friedel, please use patches and request review from me on changes to search engines and region.properties, there's significant damage that can be done with those files, so those are under a stricter regime. Thanks.

Comment 14

[Axel Hecht [:Pike]]

Friedel, Dwayne, open a new bug on the feed when you find one, and CC me and Mic?

I'm closing this bug now, it tracked enough changes already, i.e., wikipedia-af added, en-US defaults for handlers.

Reference for Firefox3 is http://hg.mozilla.org/users/axel_mozilla.com/l10n-src-verification/index.cgi/file/83cdc020d62e/reference/HEAD/af/.