420317 - [thunderbird] Request a tinderbox setup with debug enabled and not stripped

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Mozilla Messaging Graveyard :: Release Engineering, defect, P3)

Description

[David A. Cobb]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9b4pre) Gecko/2008021504 Minefield/3.0b4pre
Build Identifier: Currently 2008-02-27-tbox Linux 2.6 -- Ubuntu 7.10

Isolating some bugs is pretty hopeless without debugging symbols.  I'm currently chasing Bug#337903, but cannot trap the locations I need to.
I am seriously constrained for disk space and cannot do my own build.  In any case, as an experienced software tester I say the testing is not as valid unless I am testing a build that is known to be the same as the distributed build.

I realize there are capacity constraints for the downloads, however it appears the tinderbox builds only keep one build up so the extra space shouldn't hurt.

Of course, this can apply equally to other products -- your call.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
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Comment 1

[Jeremy Baron]

FWIW, Firefox has debug built for all 3 tier1 platforms as fast as tbox can spit them out but they don't appear to be published at http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/

Comment 2

[Dan Mosedale (:dmosedale, :dmose)]

I believe there's another bug which mentions disk space issues as being the reason those are not published.  I expect those are likely to need sorting out before this can be done...

Comment 3

[(not currently active) Ted Mielczarek]

This might suck less if I fix bug 420474 (I'm pretty close).

Comment 4

[John O'Duinn [:joduinn] (please use "needinfo?" flag)]

triaged to ReleaseEngineering:Projects

Comment 5

[John O'Duinn [:joduinn] (please use "needinfo?" flag)]

Having the symbols available on the symbol server should help. Also, we dont do this for other projects, because of the disk space issues mentioned in comment#2.

Can we close this as WONTFIX?

Comment 6

[Dan Mosedale (:dmosedale, :dmose)]

Symbols sound like a reasonable alternative to me.  Do we need separate spinoff bugs for both Linux and Windows Thunderbird symbol hosting, or should we just morph this one?

Comment 7

[(not currently active) Ted Mielczarek]

dmose: Thunderbird Win32 symbols are already available at http://symbols.mozilla.org/thunderbird. The linux symbol server stuff hasn't been turned on, but it will work for Thunderbird as well.

Comment 8

[David A. Cobb]

(In reply to comment #7)
> dmose: Thunderbird Win32 symbols are already available at
> http://symbols.mozilla.org/thunderbird. The linux symbol server stuff hasn't
> been turned on, but it will work for Thunderbird as well.

When, for Heaven's sake?  If it works and just needs turning on, what is the delay?

Comment 9

[(not currently active) Ted Mielczarek]

You know, the limited number of hours in the day.

Comment 10

[Nick Thomas [:nthomas] (UTC+12)]

Over to Mozilla Messaging.

Comment 11

[Mark Banner (:standard8)]

This is fixed in comm-central builds. It is possible to download symbols for Mac, Linux and Windows from the Symbol Server.

Windows documentation:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Using_the_Mozilla_symbol_server

I couldn't find any Mac/Linux documentation, however I'm told that using:

http://people.mozilla.org/~tmielczarek/fetch-symbols.py

will pull .dbgsym packages for gdb to use.

Therefore marking fixed. Also marking dev-doc-needed as this feels like we need some more documentation on how to debug Mac/Linux.

Comment 12

[(not currently active) Ted Mielczarek]

It's enabled for Linux/OS X, and that script will work for Linux, but not for OS X. I had a copy that would work for OS X, but I lost it, apparently. It's fairly similar, I think you just need to download the .dSYM files and put them next to the app binaries.

Related, we stopped stripping our Firefox OS X binaries, so our nightly OS X builds have debug symbols as well.

Comment 13

[Mark Banner (:standard8)]

(In reply to comment #12)
> Related, we stopped stripping our Firefox OS X binaries, so our nightly OS X
> builds have debug symbols as well.

Good point, and I'm doing that in bug 518175. So Linux & Windows are already covered, and I think bug 518175 is enough for Mac, hence really resolving as fixed.