428450 - [l10n] "Tips" in-product page for Firefox 3 release

Status: VERIFIED FIXED

(www.mozilla.org :: General, defect)

Description

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

Find linked to this bug the Firefox 3 "Tips" page to be localized in all
languages we ship for the release.

http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/projects/mozilla.com/branches/firefox3/en-US/firefox/tips/index.html?revision=12124&content-type=text%2Fplain

(revision 12124) on the Firefox 3 branch in SVN)

Don't forget to save it as UTF8 and attach it as "plain text (text/plain)" to
this bug.

Note that this page is currently not available on the current svn trunk that 
most localizers have access to (ping me on IRC/email if you don't and need it)
because it has not been merged yet from the branch where the web team is
preparing the new site for the Firefox 3 release.

Thanks

Comment 1

[Kohei Yoshino [:kohei]]

For Japanese (ja and ja-JP-mac), we'll host this page on our new home, mozilla.jp.

Comment 2

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Line 177: There are more than 5,000 Add-ons—little extras that customize Firefox—that you can download

Maybe a space after "Add-ons" and before "that" would be good


Line 186: click Manage Search Engines
Line 203: Just go to Tools → Clear Private Data

Add "…" to the menu item?


Line 245: go to Tools→Downloads a
Line 262 (and 265,267): Tools→Options→Applications

All other menu references have a space before and after →


Line 245: or Ctrl-click and choose "Copy Download Link".

Ctrl-click it's a bit too mac style

Comment 3

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

Agreed on all of your points Francesco, especially the ctrl-click which is just wrong for most of our users. People, please change "ctrl-click" by "right-click" in your translation.

Comment 4

[Cédric Corazza]

Attachment: French (fr) localization of Tips page

I didn't localize the screenshots and their path. Who will do this and when?
IMHO, we should provide localized screenshots for this page (and the other in-product pages) otherwise, this will have a little taste of amateurism

Comment 5

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

for the scrteenshot, I'll see with the graphic design guy if we can make it together, we will change paths as we have them done locale per locale.

Comment 6

[John Slater]

(In reply to comment #2)
> Line 245: go to Tools→Downloads a
> Line 262 (and 265,267): Tools→Options→Applications
> 
> All other menu references have a space before and after →
Good catch, thanks.

> Line 245: or Ctrl-click and choose "Copy Download Link".
> 
> Ctrl-click it's a bit too mac style
All the keyboard shortcuts on this page should be OS-specific, so if you're on a Mac you should see the Mac info. However, if you're not on a Mac we should definitely fix that!

Comment 7

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

> All the keyboard shortcuts on this page should be OS-specific, so if you're on
> a Mac you should see the Mac info. However, if you're not on a Mac we should
> definitely fix that!

If you're going to make this string platform-specific, maybe you want to change also the sentence "[...]CSS element with a simple right click." in paragraph "Discover Developer Tools".

Comment 8

[John Slater]

(In reply to comment #7)
> If you're going to make this string platform-specific, maybe you want to change
> also the sentence "[...]CSS element with a simple right click." in paragraph
> "Discover Developer Tools".
Thanks Francesco. In this case, I'd prefer to leave the text as it currently is. Your other edits sound good to me.  

Comment 9

[Håvard Mork]

It seems that the side-menu links are in a different order in the tips page, compared to the security and organic pages. Is that correct?

Comment 10

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

Hâvard, they are in the same order.

Comment 11

[Håvard Mork]

Attachment: nb-NO localization

Comment 12

[Fernando Pereira Silveira]

side-menu links order have changed on security page. is it going to change on all other pages?

Comment 13

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

stick to the menu order here, I'll correct menu order myself for all locales.

Comment 14

[Natsagdorj Shagdar]

Attachment: Mongolian (mn) translation

Comment 15

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Attachment: Italian (IT) localization

Comment 16

[Guillermo Movia [:deimidis]]

Attachment: es-AR localization

Comment 17

[Rubén Martín [:Nukeador] ❌ [away till Aug 31st]]

Attachment: Spanish (es-ES) localization

Comment 18

[Julen Ruiz Aizpuru]

Attachment: Basque (eu) translation

Comment 19

[Mark Tyndall]

Attachment: en-GB localisation

Comment 20

[Håvard Mork]

Attachment: nn-NO localization (by Bjorn Svindseth)

Comment 21

[Kadir Topal [:atopal]]

> To stay organized, you can assign tags to your bookmarked sites: just double click on the star icon and you’ll be prompted to enter your tags

I don't think this is the right explanation. If the website is not bookmarked already it's a double click, but if it is bookmarked, then you only have to click once, a double click would open and close the dialog immediately.

Comment 22

[Kevin Scannell]

Attachment: Irish (ga-IE) localization

Comment 23

[John Slater]

(In reply to comment #21)
> > To stay organized, you can assign tags to your bookmarked sites: just double click on the star icon and you’ll be prompted to enter your tags
> 
> I don't think this is the right explanation. If the website is not bookmarked
> already it's a double click, but if it is bookmarked, then you only have to
> click once, a double click would open and close the dialog immediately.
Thanks, that's a good catch. Personally, I feel like the current text is correct enough that it's probably not worth forcing the localizers who have already completed this page to go back and make changes (basically the phrase is right half the time, and any semi-savvy Internet user will be able to figure it out for the other half...also, explaining it fully would make the text much longer). But, there's certainly nothing wrong as being as accurate as possible.

So, I'll put the question to you guys: what do you want to do? Can you live with the text the way it is now? Is it worth changing? Not worth changing?

Let me know what you think...

Comment 24

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

if some localizers feel it is important, they can correct the wording now or later this year, it is too minor an issue to ask everybody to revise his text, at least not if we want to ship firefox 3 this quarter ;)

Comment 25

[Kadir Topal [:atopal]]

(In reply to comment #23)
> (In reply to comment #21)
> > > To stay organized, you can assign tags to your bookmarked sites: just double click on the star icon and you’ll be prompted to enter your tags
> > 
> > I don't think this is the right explanation. If the website is not bookmarked
> > already it's a double click, but if it is bookmarked, then you only have to
> > click once, a double click would open and close the dialog immediately.
> Thanks, that's a good catch. Personally, I feel like the current text is
> correct enough that it's probably not worth forcing the localizers who have
> already completed this page to go back and make changes (basically the phrase
> is right half the time

No, the phrase as it is now, is always wrong, but you can make it even shorter and right: 

To stay organized, you can assign tags to the sites you bookmark:

Well, just wanted to note.

Comment 26

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Russian (ru) localisation

Comment 27

[George Fiotakis]

Attachment: Greek localization for the Tips page

Comment 28

[rodin]

In Eliminate Every Trace section:

if (gPlatform == 3 || gPlatform == 4) {
					document.getElementById('trace-platform').innerHTML="Firefox → Preferences → Privacy";
				} else if (gPlatform == 2) {
					document.getElementById('platform-protocol').innerHTML="Edit → Preferences → Privacy";
				}

Why is it platform-protocol, not trace-plaform? the platform protocol is at "Set the Web Up Just Like You Like It" section.

Comment 29

[rodin]

Attachment: Indonesian (id) translation of Tips page

Comment 30

[u60234]

Attachment: Swedish (sv-SE) translation

Comment 31

[Wim]

Attachment: Frisian (fy-NL) localization of Tips page

Frisian (fy-NL) localization of Tips page

Comment 32

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

FYI, all the above translations were checked in SVN, revision 12454. This is a pre-QA raw checkin, no changes yet to the files.

Comment 33

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

Attachment: German (de) localization

Comment 34

[Friedel Wolff]

Attachment: Afrikaans (af) translation

Afrikaans (af) translation

Comment 35

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

Attachment: Italian (IT) localization

Fixed markup

Comment 36

[Besnik Bleta]

Attachment: Albanian Localization of Tips in-product page for Firefox 3 release

Comment 37

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

New translations and updates were checked in SVN, revision 12485. 

Comment 38

[Marek Stępień [:marcoos, inactive]]

Attachment: Polish (pl) translation

Polish translation by Katarzyna Stawarz + some fixes by me.

We left the 'en-US' in images URLs intact. Are we supposed to replace that with 'pl' or with a PHP variable, or just do nothing?

Comment 39

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

marcoos, leave it as en-US, thanks

Comment 40

[Marek Stępień [:marcoos, inactive]]

Attachment: Polish (pl) translation

Oops, the MDC link was ending with "/pl/docs/Strona_główna" instead of just "/pl/". That's currently what "/pl/" redirects too, but I think it'd be better to have only the language code here, just in case.

Comment 41

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

marcoos, could you attach files with the text/plain mime type please ;) thanks

Comment 42

[George Fiotakis]

Attachment: Updated Greek localization

Comment 43

[Guillermo Movia [:deimidis]]

Attachment: Fixed minor errors

Comment 44

[Cédric Corazza]

Attachment: French (fr) localization of Tips page v2

Fixing typos

Comment 45

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

New translations and updates were checked in SVN, revision 12540.

Comment 46

[Vlado Valastiak [:wladow]]

Attachment: Slovak (sk) translation

Comment 47

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

New translations and updates were checked in SVN, revision 12560.

Comment 48

[Kalman Kemenczy]

Attachment: Hungarian translation

Comment 49

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

New translations and updates were checked in SVN, revision 12574.

Comment 50

[Jesper Kristensen]

Attachment: Danish (da) localization (translation by Kim Ludvigsen)

I know, only half the page is translated. The rest will come later.

Comment 51

[Fernando Pereira Silveira]

Attachment: Brazilian Portuguese (pt-BR) localization

Comment 52

[Bogdancev]

Attachment: Ukrainian (uk) localization

Hi panove, this is Ukrainian localization.

Comment 53

[Ankit Patel]

Attachment: Gujarati (gu-IN) translation!

Comment 54

[Pavel Cvrcek [:JasnaPaka]]

Attachment: Czech (cs) translation

Comment 55

[Eduard Gamonal]

Attachment: catalan (ca) localization

Catalan (ca) localization done.
Reviewed by the team :)

Comment 56

[Filip Miletic]

Attachment: Serbian l10n (sr)

Comment 57

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

New translations and updates were checked in SVN, 12669. 

Comment 58

[Shaohua Wen]

Attachment: Chinese Simplified (zh-CN)

Comment 59

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

New translations and updates were checked in SVN, 12727.

Comment 60

[Channy Yun [:channy]]

Attachment: Korean (ko) translation.

Comment 61

[Channy Yun [:channy]]

Attachment: Korean (ko) translation.

fix menu change and errata.

Comment 62

[Eduardo Trápani]

Attachment: Esperanto (eo) localization

Comment 63

[Tomer Cohen :tomer]

Attachment: tips translation - he

Comment 64

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

New translations and updates were checked in SVN, 12810.

Comment 65

[sandeep shedmake]

Attachment: Marathi (mr) translations

Comment 66

[João Neves]

Attachment: Portuguese (pt-PT) localization by João Neves

Portuguese (pt-PT) l10n attached.

Comment 67

[João Neves]

Attachment: Portuguese (pt-PT) localization by João Neves

Portuguese (pt-PT) version attached.

Pascal, this is just a first translation. I'll change the sites later.

Comment 68

[Damjan Georgievski]

Attachment: tips.html macedonian [mk] translation

Comment 69

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

New translations and updates were checked in SVN, revision 12828.

Comment 70

[Ahmet Serkan Tıratacı]

Attachment: Turkish (tr) localisation

Comment 71

[Jesper Kristensen]

Attachment: Danish (da) localization

Comment 72

[Siarhei]

Attachment: Belarusian (be) translation

Comment 73

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

New translations and updates were checked in SVN, revision 12884.

Comment 74

[Rimas Kudelis [use needinfo to ping]]

Attachment: Lithuanian (lt) localization

Comment 75

[Alexandru Szasz]

Attachment: Romanian (ro) translation

Comment 76

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

New translations and updates were checked in SVN, 12921.

Comment 77

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

New translations and updates were checked in SVN, revision 13000. Note that all internal links to /firefox/addons/ were replaced by links to /firefox/customize/, if you have to update your files before the release, think of using the latest version on SVN.

Comment 78

[A S Alam]

Attachment: Gurmukhi (pa-IN) translation (text file)

Sorry for last update, but it is in.
Please include if you can.

Comment 79

[Alexander L. Slovesnik]

Attachment: Russian (ru) localisation v.2

Comment 80

[Jussi Bergström]

Attachment: Finnish (fi) localization

Comment 81

[Tim Maks van den Broek [:mad_maks]]

Attachment: nl localization

Comment 82

[Tim Maks van den Broek [:mad_maks]]

Attachment: nl localization

Comment 83

[Ahmet Serkan Tıratacı]

Attachment: Turkish (tr) localisation v2

Comment 84

[Tim Maks van den Broek [:mad_maks]]

(In reply to comment #82)
> Created an attachment (id=320510) [details]
> nl localization
> 

can you replace one line for me:

-     $page_title = 'Mozilla Products | Tips & trucs';
+     $page_title = 'Mozilla Producten | Tips & trucs';

thanks

Comment 85

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

Tim, it's corrected locally, I have already published today's changes so it will be published tomorrow

Comment 86

[Krishna Babu K]

Attachment: Reference for below mentioned typo.

Hi,

In this "tips" page i just found a typo. Under <h4>Eliminate Every Trace</h4> tag we have sentence like 
(go to <span id="trace-platform">Tools → Options → Privacy</span> and select the "Always clear my private data when I close Firefox" option).
But there is no such a menu item in the "Tools" menu.

We can find this option at Edit->preferences->privacy. So it should be
<span id="trace-platform">Edit → preferences → Privacy</span>.
Correct me, if i am wrong.
Please refer the Screenshot.

Thanks,
Krishna.

Comment 87

[Francesco Lodolo [:flod]]

> We can find this option at Edit->preferences->privacy. So it should be
> <span id="trace-platform">Edit → preferences → Privacy</span>.

Take a look at the JavaScript code under that sentence: the menu reference changes depending on the operative system of the user that reads that page.

Mac Os X: Firefox → Preferences → Privacy
Linux: Edit → Preferences → Privacy
Windows: Tools → Options → Privacy

Comment 88

[Jose Sun (Moztw.org)]

Attachment: Chinese Taiwan (zh-TW) localization

Comment 89

[Krishna Babu K]

reply to comment #87

hi,

Thanks flod. Now i understood.

Thanks
krishna.

Comment 90

[Krishna Babu K]

Attachment: Telugu [te] Translation.

Comment 91

[Rimas Kudelis [use needinfo to ping]]

Attachment: Lithuanian (lt) localization v.2

Comment 92

[Jesper Kristensen]

Pascal, there is a broken image on the Danish localization, can you take a look at it?

The image url is /en-US/img/tignish/tips/new-tab-click.png

Comment 93

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

Jesper, good catch, there was a change on en-US to fix a localization issue, the image was replaced by real text (the image was only text in a png file), i'll file a bug for localized versions to be updated soon.

Comment 94

[Tim Maks van den Broek [:mad_maks]]

Attachment: update nl localization

Comment 95

[rodin]

Attachment: Indonesian (id) translation of Tips page v2

Many fixes, especially sync with r13000

Comment 96

[amed]

Attachment: Kurdish (ku) translation

Kurdish (ku) translation

Comment 97

[Brian King [:kinger]]

Attachment: Slovene (sl) translation

Comment 98

[Guillermo Movia [:deimidis]]

Attachment: minor fixes for es-AR

Comment 99

[Ayman Hourieh]

Attachment: Arabic (ar) localization

Comment 100

[Gia Shervashidze]

Attachment: Georgian (ka) l10n

Comment 101

[Siarhei]

Attachment: Belarusian (be) translation

Comment 102

[Shankar Prasad]

Attachment: Kannada(kn) translations

Have attached the kannada(kn)

Comment 103

[Jussi Bergström]

Attachment: A correction to the Finnish (fi) localization

Fixed a typo.

Btw, is it possible to translate the "of" next to the tip browsing arrows? At least with a quick glance, I couldn't see any way to do that.

Comment 104

[Fernando Pereira Silveira]

Attachment: Brazilian Portuguese (pt-BR) Localization Update

Updating content based on en-US page

Comment 105

[Danishka]

Attachment: Sinhala (si) tranlation (text file)

Comment 106

[Fernando Pereira Silveira]

Attachment: Brazilian Portuguese (pt-BR) Localization Update

Comment 107

[Danishka]

Attachment: Sinhala (si) tranlation (text file)

Hi Pascal,

Updated Sinhala translation after few corrections

Comment 108

[Danishka]

Attachment: Sinhala (si) tranlation (text file)

Pascal,

Changed the mime type

Comment 109

[Danishka]

Attachment: Sinhala (si) tranlation (text file)

final update

Comment 110

[Danishka]

Attachment: Sinhala (si) tranlation (text file)

final update

Comment 111

[Pascal Chevrel:pascalc]

This bug is now closed. Any change to the page now needs opening a new bug giving the rationale for the change and a patch.

Comment 112

[Stephen Donner [:stephend] Not actively reading bugmail]

Verified; we've shipped and I've seen several changes made by localizers since, via direct SVN commits.