449054 - Release Notes for Firefox 3.0.1 incorrectly state that bug 424626 has been fixed.

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(www.mozilla.org :: General, defect)

Description

[Steve Mozbug]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070206 Firefox/3.0.1
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070206 Firefox/3.0.1

This bug was prematurely declared fixed by the maintainer(s?).
The unwanted behavior is still occurring under Firefox 3.0.1 on my system.

If the bug fix was merely prematurely/erroneously categorized 
as having been fixe&verified, then in my opinion, the "has been fixed" wording
 should be removed from the 3.0.1 Release Notes.

On the other hand, if a decision has been made that this bug 
is not going to be fixed, then users should be apprised of that fact, 
and of any and all available workaround mechanisms.

-----------------------------------

Following is my comment #108 in the bugzilla database entry for bug 424626.

"First time user of bugzilla today, apologizing for any resulting
rough edges.

424626 is described in the Release Notes for 3.0.1 as having been
fixed, but, it has not been fixed as far as I can observe on my system
(details below).

As best I can tell the present "fixed 1.9.0.1" status of 424626,
is/was the basis for the 3.0.1 ReleaseNotes wording.

A couple days ago I installed Ubuntu 7.0.4 i386 (Desktop) from scratch
using a CD sold by linuxcentral. Then, used synaptic etc. to obtain
and apply all updates. Hence, 'uname -a' now says "2.6.20-17-generic
#2 SMP Thu Jul 10 00:05:43 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux".

Subsequently downloaded and installed Firefox 3.0.1 manually; because
the native Ubuntu mechanisms do not understand that any Firefox rev
higher than 2.* might exist and warrant downloading/installation.

I am at home, using a dialup land line connection to my ISP, and ppp
(via 'wvdial'). There is no other computer, telephone or network
gear in my home. The linux is "out of the box" except for installing
the aforementioned up-to-current-revs patches. I don't know whether
NM is running, nor how to determine whether it is running. I am a
"simple end user" when it comes to linux.

When I startup Firefox, it is in Offline mode. I am forced to uncheck
the "Offline" box in the menu, else Firefox will not be able to access
internet sites. This behavior, I believe, is exactly the unwanted
behavior described in the Summary line for 424646. That is why I say,
it has not been fixed.

If "you" (the maintainer(s)) understand that the unwanted behavior
is still occurring, please amend the ReleaseNotes and the underlying
status code for 424646, to reflect that the bug has not been fixed.
Or let me know where/how to  file an issue directly to someone who
maintains the release notes, if that is the usual mechanism for correcting
them.

It appears, though, that possibly the maintainer(s) may be declining to
fix the bug under the premise that "it does not deserve fixing" -- or
however you might summarize that kind of argument -- and that leaving
users in the situation of working around the bug by either unchecking
the Offline box, or editing about:config (too dangerous for an
simple end user?) may be the most advisable approach for now.
I don't happen to agree with that view. But even if you hold that view,
I don't believe it is possible to justify calling the bug "fixed".
It has not been fixed!"




Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Start Firefox 3.0.1 on my PC.


Actual Results:  
2. See error message reflecting the fact that Firefox started in Offline mode.
3. Cry in my beer.

Expected Results:  
2. Start in Online mode.

yes, using default theme.

Comment 1

[Steffen Wilberg]

I'm running Windows right now, but I believe that Ubuntu 8.04 already contains Firefox 3 (or 3.0.1 by now). That bug should be fixed in the Ubuntu version of Firefox.

In the version downloaded from mozilla.com, you need to go to about:config (in the location bar) and set the "toolkit.networkmanager.disable" pref to true (enter "toolkit." in the filter bar, and double-click the above mentioned pref in order to toggle it to true). Restart Firefox.

Hope that helps. I guess the release notes should mention that you have to flip the pref...

Comment 2

[Tyler Downer [He/Him]]

@Steve, I confirm that the resolution on  bug 424626 needs to be changed to FIXED if it has been fixed. 

Comment 3

[Steve Mozbug]

(In reply to comment #2)

Perhaps it 'should be fixed' (meaning 'should have been fixed'), but, No, the version of Firefox 3 that ships with Ubuntu 8.0.4 does not contain the fix; after posting the original bug report, I later installed Ubuntu 8.0.4 from a linuxcentral DVD only to have my hopes dashed again.

In addition, the native-in-Ubuntu-8.0.4 update mechanisms do not yet know about the existences of Firefox 3.0.1. And, if you install Firefox 3.0.1 manually
under Ubuntu 8.0.4, the reported bug still exists (as I suppose would be
expected.)

(In reply to comment #1)
> I'm running Windows right now, but I believe that Ubuntu 8.04 already contains
> Firefox 3 (or 3.0.1 by now). That bug should be fixed in the Ubuntu version of
> Firefox.
> 
> In the version downloaded from mozilla.com, you need to go to about:config (in
> the location bar) and set the "toolkit.networkmanager.disable" pref to true
> (enter "toolkit." in the filter bar, and double-click the above mentioned pref
> in order to toggle it to true). Restart Firefox.
> 
> Hope that helps. I guess the release notes should mention that you have to flip
> the pref...
> 

Comment 4

[Alex Buchanan [:abuchanan]]

Attachment: patch

I'd like to close this really old bug, so I'll propose a patch.

I deleted the line saying this the issue was fixed, and took this line from future release notes, adding it to the "Known Issues" section


"""
Users on a PPP connection (dialup or DSL) may find that Firefox always starts in "Offline" mode. Toggle File > Work Offline as a work around (bug 424626)
"""

Roc, could you verify that is a correct update?


OR, we could just wontfix this ;)  but I figured it's a simple change and would be good for historical docs.

Comment 5

[Robert O'Callahan (:roc) (email my personal email if necessary)]

Comment on attachment 500438 [details] [diff] [review]
patch

but who cares, honestly?