47038 - View | Paragraph Marks seems to add blank lines when enabled

Status: RESOLVED INVALID

(SeaMonkey :: Composer, defect)

Description

[Kathleen :Brade]

View | Paragraph Marks seems to sometimes add the paragraph symbol on the line 
beneath a bullet rather than at the end of the bullet line.  This makes editing 
with Paragraph Marks visible very difficult.

An example document would look something like this (note: "Psym" will indicate 
where I see the paragraph symbol)

 * A Psym
     * 1 Psym
         * a
           Psym
     * 2 Psym
     * 3 Psym

 * BB Psym
     * 1 Psym
     * 2 Psym
     * 3
       Psym
 * CC Psym
     * 1 Psym
     * 2
       Psym
 * DD Psym
...

Comment 1

[Kathleen :Brade]

nominate for nsbeta3

Comment 2

[Charles Manske]

We are removing the Show Paragraph marks feature for first release.

Comment 3

[rubydoo123]

setting keyword to help wanted

Comment 4

[Daniel Glazman (:glazou) (not active in Mozilla any more)]

I think I know the reason why you have this behavior : EditorParagraphMarks.css
contains a unique rule adding generated content after some elements, including
BR. But BR is a very special element. I suggest keeping the :after for others
of course but turning br:after into br:before. That should solve Kathy's bug...

Comment 5

[Daniel Glazman (:glazou) (not active in Mozilla any more)]

*** Bug 97271 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 6

[Daniel Glazman (:glazou) (not active in Mozilla any more)]

From [e-mail] in bug 97271, dup of this one  (copied here because
this provided valuable input) :

When contructing documents and Web pages with a lot of code, it really helps to
be able to actually see the formatting marks. Many competing HTML editors
include this, at least in part (FrontPage 98, for example, allows you to show
line breaks and paragraph marks). This makes it much easier to see when stray or
excess formatting abounds in your document. The general idea is as follows:

View-->Formatting marks-->Paragraph marks
                          Spaces
                          Tabs
                          Line breaks

with a checkmark next to each when it's on.

Following are the typically used symbols for these formatting marks:

The symbol for a paragraph mark is kind of a backwards P with two vertical strokes.

The symbol for the line break is an arrow pointing first down and then left
(kind of like on the Enter key of a keyboard).

The symbol for a space is typically a dot in the center of the character field

The symbol for a tab is typically a right-pointing arrow.

To see an implementation of this, you can go to Tools-->Options in Microsoft
Word and then check the appropriate boxes in the Formatting marks section of the
View tab. There is also a button that looks like a paragraph mark (a backwards P
with two vertical strokes) on the Word Standard toolbar which you can toggle the
view of these marks on and off with. I also recommend a button like this that
will toggle all marks that are checked in the menus on and off.

In the Word 2002, the paragraph marks that are shown even indicate the format
that they carry. For example, a paragraph mark for a paragraph that uses red,
bold, italic text will be red, bold, and italic to show its formatting. 

For all I know, this feqature may be WAY difficult to implement, but
implementing it even as far as FrontPage does would be nice.

Comment 7

[Daniel Glazman (:glazou) (not active in Mozilla any more)]

1. end of block marks ; easily doable with one line of CSS
   using a :after pseudo-element for instance   p:after { content : "\B6" }

2. visible line breaks (<BR>) : hard because of BR special behavior ; if you
   try now a :before or :after strategy, you end up with blank lines and broken
   line breaks. I have worked a week on this item without finding a suitable
   solution. We *should* be able to use a generated content strategy. The bug
   is at layout's level.

3. visible spaces and tabs : even harder because this is not at node level

Comment 8

[Syd Logan]

spam composer change

Comment 9

[Arun Prasannan (polar)]

This bug is being marked EXPIRED as it has seen no activity in a very long time.

If you think that the issue reported might still be relevant, please test with a recent release of SeaMonkey and if the problem persists feel free to re-open the report. Thank you.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

Comment 10

[Mark Banner (:standard8)]

Bulk reopening incorrectly expired bugs - no activity does not constitute no bug - these need proper checking.

Comment 11

[Stephanie Daugherty [:sdaugherty]]

This bug no longer exists because the underlying feature (view formatting marks) isn't in the current SeaMonkey composer.