496577 - "Sort by Name" menu item greyed out for RSS feeds

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(Firefox :: Bookmarks & History, defect)

Description

[Marcia Knous [:marcia]]

I searched bugzilla first and could not find a dupe of this, but I may have missed it.

While testing Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1b99) Gecko/20090604 Firefox/3.5b99 I noticed that the context menu item for "Sort by Name" is greyed out and I wondered why since it works fine for bookmarks. I can still sort by clicking on the column title.

Comment 1

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

Marcia references the context menu entry of the left pane inside the Library. That happens for all platforms.

Comment 2

[Marcia Knous [:marcia]]

I guess RSS feeds are a bit different than bookmarks in that you might want to sort them more than RSS feeds which are usually read as they come in, but looking for a rationale nonetheless.

Comment 3

[Marco Bonardo [:mak] (Away Apr 25 - May 5)]

i think that is by design since live bookmarks are read only containers

Comment 4

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

But I can still order by name in the right pane by clicking the column header. That's a bit confusing ui.

Comment 5

[Marcia Knous [:marcia]]

I agree with henrik in Comment 4 that if we cannot sort by name in the context menu it does make sense to be able to do it via the column header in nothing else than for consistency.

Comment 6

[Marco Bonardo [:mak] (Away Apr 25 - May 5)]

but that's not a permanent sorting, Library sorting is a view sorting, while sort by name is a real folder sorting. Probably this is not much clear to a non technical user, still i don't see a clear use case to allow sorting a live bookmark permanently (till it is updated really since at first update it would lose sorting)

Comment 7

[Henrik Skupin [:whimboo][⌚️UTC+1]]

That wasn't clear for me too. So we should somehow improve this. Why we show this menu item as disabled and don't hide it at all? It will never be active for live folders. Or was it an UI requirement to have the same items shown up and only disable the ones which cannot be used at this point.

Comment 8

[Dietrich Ayala (:dietrich)]

note that for smart-folders, the item doesn't show at all, so hiding it for livemarks would be consistent with that.

Also, it sounds like we need better wording than "sort by name", to indicate that it's a permanent *re-ordering* of the folder contents, not a temporary sort.

Comment 9

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

Bug 451915 - move Firefox/Places bugs to Firefox/Bookmarks and History. Remove all bugspam from this move by filtering for the string "places-to-b-and-h".

In Thunderbird 3.0b, you do that as follows:
Tools | Message Filters
Make sure the correct account is selected. Click "New"
Conditions: Body   contains   places-to-b-and-h
Change the action to "Delete Message".
Select "Manually Run" from the dropdown at the top.
Click OK.

Select the filter in the list, make sure "Inbox" is selected at the bottom, and click "Run Now". This should delete all the bugspam. You can then delete the filter.

Gerv

Comment 10

[Marco Bonardo [:mak] (Away Apr 25 - May 5)]

this bug as it is is wontfix, the order of livemark children is based on the rss feed, and we don't want to change it