552282 - [Autoconfiguration] Add support for bluewin.ch

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Webtools :: ISPDB Server, defect)

Description

[Richard Marti (:Paenglab)]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de-DE; rv:1.9.3a3pre) Gecko/20100313 Minefield/3.7a3pre
Build Identifier: 

Via https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/TopMissingDomains

The configuration is already in the DB:
http://ispdb.mozillamessaging.com/details/23

Reproducible: Always

Comment 1

[Richard Marti (:Paenglab)]

I checked this configuration and it looks okay.

bluewin.ch supports also IMAP (automatically configured for IPhone) but the site has no info about this. Should I add the config here. The ispdb don't let me add this infos as already one exists.

Comment 2

[Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul]]

(In reply to comment #1)
> I checked this configuration and it looks okay.
> 
> bluewin.ch supports also IMAP (automatically configured for IPhone) but the
> site has no info about this. Should I add the config here. The ispdb don't let
> me add this infos as already one exists.

Yes please do.

Comment 3

[Richard Marti (:Paenglab)]

Attachment: Config file for IMAP account

Comment 4

[Richard Marti (:Paenglab)]

Attachment: Config file for POP3 account

I added this config file because in one on ISPDB was missing the %EMAILLOCALPART% in username of the incoming server.

Comment 5

[Blake Winton (:bwinton) (:☕️)]

Comment on attachment 433805 [details]
Config file for POP3 account

I think this should be a comment in the IMAP file, so I'm going to r- this one.

>    <incomingServer type="pop3">
>      <hostname>pop.bluewin.ch</hostname>
>      <port>110</port>
>      <socketType>None</socketType>
>      <username>%EMAILLOCALPART%</username>
>      <authentication>plain</authentication>
>    </incomingServer>

I can connect to pop3s.bluewin.ch on port 995, so I think we want to use that, instead of this insecure config.

Thanks,
Blake.

Comment 6

[Blake Winton (:bwinton) (:☕️)]

Comment on attachment 433804 [details]
Config file for IMAP account

><?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
><clientConfig version="3.0">
>  <emailProvider id="">

The id should have a value of "bluewin.ch".

>    <domain>bluewin.ch</domain>
[snip…]
>    <outgoingServer type="smtp">
>      <hostname>smtpauth.bluewin.ch</hostname>
>      <port>587</port>
>      <socketType>None</socketType>
>      <username>%EMAILLOCALPART%</username>
>      <authentication>plain</authentication>

So, port 587 advertises AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN, so we should probably pick one of those.  But, we can also connect on port 465, securely, so we might want to go that direction instead (or as well).

<addThisServer>false</addThisServer>

This should have the value "true".

Aside from those two changes, I like it, so r=me with those two things fixed, and the POP3 config added as a comment.

And please ask BenB for the next review.

Thanks,
Blake.

Comment 7

[Richard Marti (:Paenglab)]

(In reply to comment #5)
> (From update of attachment 433805 [details])
> I think this should be a comment in the IMAP file, so I'm going to r- this one.

How do I add this part as comment to the IMAP file? Embrace with <comment></comment>?

What is when a user wants pop3 instead of imap, can he choose then the pop config?

Comment 8

[Blake Winton (:bwinton) (:☕️)]

(In reply to comment #7)
> (In reply to comment #5)
> > (From update of attachment 433805 [details] [details])
> > I think this should be a comment in the IMAP file, so I'm going to r- this one.
> 
> How do I add this part as comment to the IMAP file? Embrace with
> <comment></comment>?

Like it's done in this file:
https://bug552628.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=434314

> What is when a user wants pop3 instead of imap, can he choose then the pop
> config?

Not yet, but we're working on adding that feature to Thunderbird, and when we do, they will be able to.

Thanks,
Blake.

Comment 9

[Richard Marti (:Paenglab)]

Attachment: Config file for bluewin.ch - commited

New file with the things corrected Blake mentioned. I haven't added the secure servers because bluewin didn't proposed them on the config page.

I hope the Requestee is right addressed as it's my first request.

Comment 10

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Comment on attachment 434357 [details]
Config file for bluewin.ch - commited

Richard, wow, that's one perfect config file, for a change. Very nice.

(well, *almost* perfect: POP SSL server allows secure auth. We should use that.) With that changed, r=BenB

The IMAPs server doesn't like me, but maybe it's my testing. I trust that you tested it and it worked.

Comment 11

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

The ISP page <http://smtphelp.bluewin.ch/swisscomdtg/setup/> mentions email addresses under domain bluemail.ch , and they need a slightly different config, namely the full email address instead of just the local part - they are explicit about that, when you click "Wieso fehlt mein E-Mail Programm?".

Could we add (and test) that domain & config as well, please?

Comment 12

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Verified per DNS and WHOIS that bluemail.ch belongs to bluewin.ch

Comment 13

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Comment on attachment 434357 [details]
Config file for bluewin.ch - commited

Commited as Revision 64706.

I changed the POP3 auth to "secure". Richard, can you please verify that you can use the POP server with secure auth / encrypted passwords? (You can check "leave messages on server" in TB)

Comment 14

[Richard Marti (:Paenglab)]

(In reply to comment #13)
> (From update of attachment 434357 [details])
> Commited as Revision 64706.
> 
> I changed the POP3 auth to "secure". Richard, can you please verify that you
> can use the POP server with secure auth / encrypted passwords? (You can check
> "leave messages on server" in TB)

Secure doesn't work, Thunderbird says it looks like bluewin does not support secure authentication.
So you have to change this back.

Comment 15

[Richard Marti (:Paenglab)]

Attachment: Config file for bluemail.ch

Tried this with a new bluemail.ch account and it works with IMAP. POP not tried but it's the same config as bluewin.ch except the username part.

Comment 16

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Indeed. I tried again and now I see no AUTH in CAPA anymore. I probably was just confused.
Changed to plain, commited as revision 64718.

Richard, do you have an email address @bluemail.ch? (Or can get one?)

Comment 17

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Comment on attachment 434590 [details]
Config file for bluemail.ch

> POP not tried

Can you still try that, please?

Thanks for the config!

Only nit: Given that bluemail is also bluewin, use that as display name.

Comment 18

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Comment on attachment 434590 [details]
Config file for bluemail.ch

(No need for a new config, just try POP please, and we'll wait for bwinton to review.)

Comment 19

[Richard Marti (:Paenglab)]

Tried POP and it works also.

Comment 20

[Blake Winton (:bwinton) (:☕️)]

Comment on attachment 434590 [details]
Config file for bluemail.ch

>    <displayName>bluemail.ch</displayName>
>    <displayShortName>bluemail.ch</displayShortName>

Looks good to me.  Don't forget to change these two values to bluewin.ch, as per Ben's comment 17.

Later,
Blake.

Comment 21

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Attachment: bluemail.ch, v1.1 file format - commited to v1.1

Updated to v1.1
Added note about difference
Fixed displayname

Commited as revision 66656 and 66657.

FIXED

Comment 22

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Note: bluemail.ch only commited to v1.1 (TB 3.1)