580929 - [config] Add kabelmail.de (Germany)

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Webtools :: ISPDB Database Entries, defect)

Comment 1

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

http://www.kabeldeutschland.de/portal/faq/article/id/191

Comment 2

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Attachment: Config, v1

Comment 3

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Attachment: Config, v2

Comment 4

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Somebody should test this.

Comment 5

[Blake Winton (:bwinton) (:☕️)]

Comment on attachment 460108 [details]
Config, v2

Yup, I like it, assuming you've tested it.  :)

Comment 6

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

> assuming you've tested it.

I haven't and can't, because I don't have an account there.

http://www.kabeldeutschland.de/info-service/kontakt.html
https://www.kabelmail.de/sites/support/FAQ.pdf

Comment 7

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

(It's cable ISP)

Comment 8

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Comment on attachment 460108 [details]
Config, v2

Tried to contact their press department, no answer.
blake, can I commit anyway?

Comment 9

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Comment on attachment 460108 [details]
Config, v2

blake, see above. you made the review conditional.

Comment 10

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Commited as SVN Revision 73715.
FIXED

Comment 11

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

(sancus gave r+)

Comment 12

[thomas.bueter]

Hi, 

i'm from the Support-Team of Kabel E-Mail. I can provide a 100% correct config-file, it is tested and should work fine.


Greetings,
(In reply to comment #11)
> (sancus gave r+)

Comment 13

[thomas.bueter]

Attachment: Correct, tested version

Comment 14

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Comment on attachment 532907 [details]
Correct, tested version

This is fixed.

What's wrong with the existing file?

> <emailProvider id="directbox.com">

This is not 100% correct ;-)

> <authentication>none</authentication>

Neither

I also do not like the other differences, e.g. display name was better before, you're removing an SSL config variant and adding non-SSL configs. We don't verify vanity domains unless they have significant amounts (tens of thousands) of users.

r-

Comment 15

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

Thomas, if you want to help, can you please provide a test account for us, given that you're from Kabel Deutschland?
You can email the username and password to me ([e-mail]). Thanks.

Comment 16

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

(In reply to comment #12)
> i'm from the Support-Team of Kabel E-Mail.

Compare bug 657308 comment 3

Comment 17

[thomas.bueter]

> What's wrong with the existing file?
<outgoingServer type="smtp">
<hostname>smtp.kabelmail.de</hostname>
<port>465</port>
<socketType>SSL</socketType>
<username>%EMAILADDRESS%</username>
<authentication>password-cleartext</authentication>
</outgoingServer>

These information aren't correct anymore - currently it is STARTTLS only
 
> Neither
Seriously...I posted the wrong file - could slap myself. 

> I also do not like the other differences, e.g. display name was better
> before, you're removing an SSL config variant and adding non-SSL configs. We
> don't verify vanity domains unless they have significant amounts (tens of
> thousands) of users.
Ah - okay, didn't know about that (regarding domains). But I only removed the SSL-Variant for the SMTP-Server and added a Non-SSL-Variant for the POP3-Server. The SMTP-Version was exchanged with STARTTLS, which basicly is the same as SSL.

But as mentioned in the other bug we probably move ahead and will host those files ourselves which would make it easier for us.

If the file is stored on our servers, will Thunderbird check this file first or will it use the file stored in your ispdb? This is what I understood from the documentation around Autoconfiguration.

Comment 18

[thomas.bueter]

Yah - nevermind, just read your other post again. As mentioned it actually is faster if the file is hosted at our location.

Thanks for the help :)

Comment 19

[Ben Bucksch (:BenB)]

> > <hostname>smtp.kabelmail.de</hostname>
> > <port>465</port>
> > <socketType>SSL</socketType>

> These information aren't correct anymore - currently it is STARTTLS only

I just tried it, and it works.

If STARTTLS is better supported, though, we can change that.

BUT I would strongly recommend to leave it SMTP with direct SSL on port 465 working (there's no harm), otherwise you leave existing users stranded.

(It's also consistent, because the POP server is also directly SSL.)

Ben

Comment 20

[thomas.bueter]

Mhm, okay - seems like we didn't change it for Kabel E-Mail though. Allright - SSL will stay where it is ;) 

I will provide a test-account for you later this day.

Comment 21

[Mark Banner (:standard8)]

Comment on attachment 460108 [details]
Config, v2

Removing what appears to be an obsolete unassigned feedback request flag as this bug is long fixed.