589638 - (ietestcenter) HTML5 Foreign Content 2/24: Test passes if 'FillerText' is rendered as italic.

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(Web Compatibility :: Site Reports, defect)

Description

[Darxus]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0b4pre) Gecko/20100817 Minefield/4.0b4pre
Build Identifier: 

Fails test.

Reproducible: Always

Comment 1

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

This test is bogus.  In particular, the SVG spec is very clear that the text should be laid out in such a way that the baseline of the text is at the y position of the <text> element, and since the "y" attribute is not specified, the y position defaults to 0.  Thus all the text is above the top of the <svg> bounding box and is clipped out.

Comment 2

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

And it's clipped out because SVG 1.1 section 14.3.3 says that the default value of 'overflow' for <svg> is 'hidden'.

Comment 3

[:Ms2ger (he/him; ⌚ UTC+1/+2)]

<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2010Jun/0052.html>

Comment 4

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

It might be good to also keep the original tests but change the pass condition to the content not being visible (which IE9 would therefore fail).

Comment 5

[jag (Peter Annema)]

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/02/10/acting-on-feedback-ie9-release-candidate-available-for-download.aspx#10127751

Patrick Dengler [MSFT] 10 Feb 2011 3:30 PM

> 589638 and 589639 states that the test is 'bogus' because the default in SVG 
> for overflow is hidden.  We discussed this in the working group and since the 
> default in CSS for HTML is overflow:visible, and since this is an HTML page 
> (and not SVG or XHTML), the default should be visible, these seem to be valid.


http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/masking.html#OverflowProperty

> The initial value for ‘overflow’ as defined in [CSS2-overflow] is 'visible', 
> and this applies also to the root ‘svg’ element; however, for child elements 
> of an SVG document, SVG's user agent style sheet overrides this initial value 
> and sets the ‘overflow’ property on elements that establish new viewports 
> (e.g., ‘svg’ elements), ‘pattern’ elements and ‘marker’ elements to the value 
> 'hidden'.


If I'm reading that right (probably not), that <svg> element should have "overflow: visible" on it.

Comment 6

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

SVG's user agent style sheet is applied to all documents, though, not just SVG documents...  That informative text is not consistent with normative text elsewhere, basically, as far as I can see.

Comment 7

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

In particular, the normative text at http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/styling.html#UAStyleSheet which clearly says that that rule applies to all <svg> elements, not just those in an SVG document.

Comment 8

[Karl Dubost💡 :karlcow]

Not sure why this is a tech evangelism issue and who/what actions should be taken on that?
It seems more a discussion in between people involved in creating test suites.

Comment 9

[Boris Zbarsky [:bzbarsky]]

This isn't a test suite; it's an IE marketing site...

Comment 10

[Mike Taylor [:miketaylr]]

Edge now renders this exactly the same as Firefox and Chrome. Given that, let's close as WONTFIX (to mean something like: not worth the effort at this point). 

Microsoft isn't marketing IE anymore these days.