758917 - Port |Bug 665580 - Hide http:// and single trailing slashes in the location bar| to SeaMonkey

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(SeaMonkey :: Location Bar, enhancement)

Description

[Serge Gautherie (:sgautherie)]

We'll want
Bug 711503 - Don't trim url when inline autocomplete inserts text
too, at least.

Comment 1

[Philip Chee]

I vote WONTFIX.

Comment 2

[Serge Gautherie (:sgautherie)]

(In reply to Philip Chee from comment #1)
> I vote WONTFIX.

Why?

NB:
This feature is enabled by a preference, which we might set to false by default if need be :-|
I didn't look too deep wrt what this feature does exactly.

Comment 3

[Serge Gautherie (:sgautherie)]

(In reply to Serge Gautherie (:sgautherie) from comment #2)
> I didn't look too deep wrt what this feature does exactly.

PS: What caught me eye was "[parity-chrome] [parity-opera]", and now "[parity-firefox]"...

Comment 4

[Tony Mechelynck [:tonymec]]

(In reply to Serge Gautherie (:sgautherie) from comment #2)
> (In reply to Philip Chee from comment #1)
> > I vote WONTFIX.

So do I.

> 
> Why?

Before you asked, I had sent a list post to avoid polluting the bug.

> 
> NB:
> This feature is enabled by a preference, which we might set to false by
> default if need be :-|

I can tolerate a (mis)feature which is disabled by a pref.

> I didn't look too deep wrt what this feature does exactly.

(In reply to Serge Gautherie (:sgautherie) from comment #3)
> PS: What caught me eye was "[parity-chrome] [parity-opera]", and now
> "[parity-firefox]"...

Do we have to clone everything the others do even if they do it wrong? SeaMonkey has a reputation (IMHO justified) of being targeted at programmers and other nerds. If Firefox wants to target kindergarten kiddies, so be it. "We nerds" are not frightened by a URL scheme and end-slash; in fact, it's their absence which bothers us.

Comment 5

[Serge Gautherie (:sgautherie)]

(In reply to Tony Mechelynck [:tonymec] from comment #4)

> I can tolerate a (mis)feature which is disabled by a pref.

Then what's the problem?

> Do we have to clone everything the others do even if they do it wrong?

Is SeaMonkey right against all these browsers?

> SeaMonkey has a reputation (IMHO justified) of being targeted at programmers

Is there a list of allowed people to use SeaMonkey?

> and other nerds. If Firefox wants to target kindergarten kiddies, so be it.
> "We nerds" are not frightened by a URL scheme and end-slash; in fact, it's
> their absence which bothers us.

Please don't be that subjective wrt my family and friends (and other people)!

A pref is there so I/we can get all the details, while they can not if that's easier for them...

Comment 6

[Philip Chee]

> Then what's the problem?
Every configuration option means more code paths to maintain and more things that can possibly go wrong.

> Is SeaMonkey right against all these browsers?
A thousand lemmings can't be wrong.

> Is there a list of allowed people to use SeaMonkey?
We can neither confirm nor deny the existence of such a list.

> A pref is there so I/we can get all the details, while they can not if that's easier
> for them...
I believe that this would just cause more confusion. Sorry.

Comment 7

[Justin Wood (:Callek)]

(In reply to Philip Chee from comment #6)
> > Then what's the problem?
> Every configuration option means more code paths to maintain and more things
> that can possibly go wrong.

This.

I basically agree with the WONTFIX imo. If its a real desired "feature" we can try to expose enough to make it possible with an extension (if its not already), then we can guage its popularity/investment on a scale of those who install the extension.

Comment 8

[Phoenix]

(In reply to Philip Chee from comment #1)
> I vote WONTFIX.
I support this

Comment 9

[Tony Mechelynck [:tonymec]]

(In reply to Serge Gautherie (:sgautherie) from comment #5)
> (In reply to Tony Mechelynck [:tonymec] from comment #4)
[...]
> > and other nerds. If Firefox wants to target kindergarten kiddies, so be it.
> > "We nerds" are not frightened by a URL scheme and end-slash; in fact, it's
> > their absence which bothers us.
> 
> Please don't be that subjective wrt my family and friends (and other people)!
[...]

Subjective, in some cases I can't be anything but. It was not my intention to be pejorative. In fact, it seems to me that it's a general trend with Firefox to reduce the number of options and widgets in order not to bewilder newbies. Such a trend can be good or bad depending on point of view. Certainly it is a good thing that newbies should have a browser with which they feel at home and not bewildered. But IMHO techie types will prefer something powerful which doesn't hide anything that they want to see.

When I voted WONTFIX in my email message, I wasn't aware of a pref. It's OK by me to hide the behaviour behind a pref provided that everything works as expected. Callek's idea in comment #7 above looks interesting to me, with the additional benefit that it probably avoids the (very small but nonzero) increase in program size, startup time, bugginess, etc.

Comment 10

[Tony Mechelynck [:tonymec]]

Oh, and another thing: Everyone is _allowed_ to use SeaMonkey (or Firefox or Opera or…). Whatever we do, not everyone will _like_ it. If all browsers are identical, the same people will like them all, others will dislike them all. If some people prefer one and others another, everybody wins.