820913 - Odd copy (Redirect 1) in page redirect explanation

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(developer.mozilla.org Graveyard :: Editing, defect)

Description

[Eric Shepherd [:sheppy]]

Attachment: The odd redirect link text

When I visit a page following its original link after using the page move feature, the link to the original page (which is now a redirect) is odd looking. See attachment for an example from stage.

Comment 1

[David Walsh :davidwalsh]

In this case, Sheppy, what should the redirect say?  I just want to ensure we don't go back and forth on this.

Comment 2

[Eric Shepherd [:sheppy]]

Just "Redirected from X". The "Redirect 1" thing at the end is confusing.

Comment 3

[Luke Crouch [:groovecoder]]

IIRC, we added the "Redirect N" to the title when/because the document titles all had to be unique.

Not sure if that's the case anymore.

Comment 4

[Jean-Yves Perrier [:teoli]]

In fact the problem here is that we don't want the page title displayed here:

Transitions
Redirected from Transitions 

is useless.

We want:
Transitions
Redirected from /en/docs/Transitions

and no ?redirect-* in the URL (we want a clean URL in this case)

Comment 5

[Eric Shepherd [:sheppy]]

What teoli said.

Comment 6

[Mark Giffin [:markg]]

If we have to add any text saying "Redirected from ...", then I think we should NOT make it a link. Just make it text on the page. A link invites you to click on it, and I don't know why an MDN user would want to do that.

Comment 7

[Les Orchard [:lorchard]]

(In reply to Mark Giffin [:markg] from comment #6)
> If we have to add any text saying "Redirected from ...", then I think we
> should NOT make it a link. Just make it text on the page. A link invites you
> to click on it, and I don't know why an MDN user would want to do that.

Taking a look at fixing this bug. One thing that will probably come up as a follow up: If we no longer have the link in the redirect notice, then there is no easy way to get back to the original redirect page. That means there's no easy way to edit a page that's been changed into a redirect, which you might need to do if the redirect was a mistake.

Comment 8

[Eric Shepherd [:sheppy]]

(In reply to Les Orchard [:lorchard] from comment #7)
> (In reply to Mark Giffin [:markg] from comment #6)
> > If we have to add any text saying "Redirected from ...", then I think we
> > should NOT make it a link. Just make it text on the page. A link invites you
> > to click on it, and I don't know why an MDN user would want to do that.
> 
> Taking a look at fixing this bug. One thing that will probably come up as a
> follow up: If we no longer have the link in the redirect notice, then there
> is no easy way to get back to the original redirect page. That means there's
> no easy way to edit a page that's been changed into a redirect, which you
> might need to do if the redirect was a mistake.

I believe we do want to have a link to the redirect page, but the text should simply be "Redirected from /old/slug/here". The text should be small and unobtrusive, since the only people who care are people specifically looking to fix a redirect issue.

The main problem with the current situation is the additional "(Redirect X)" text, which doesn't make any sense to even advanced users (to this day, I have no clue what it means).

Comment 9

[[github robot]]

Commit pushed to master at https://github.com/mozilla/kuma

https://github.com/mozilla/kuma/commit/c2f50c31e7c6ac8e33ff1e0d4a82fc3c4c8e3212
bug 820913: Disable the redirection message link for now