Closed Bug 936454 Opened 6 years ago Closed 4 years ago
doubleclick backend sniffing breaks video
.ft .com - plays adverts only, not video content on Firefox OS
Site: http://video.ft.com video.ft.com plays adverts only, not video content on Firefox OS :: Steps To Reproduce 1. Go to some URL like http://video.ft.com/2692489117001/Singapore-wealth-managers-tested/companies 2. Click play 3. Watch ad, wait for the real video There is a loading spinner, but video never plays. :: Expected Result video :: Actual Result no video :: Additional Information Software Version: 1.1 Reporter's User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0
It uses Brightcove - thought evidently not to play the ads, just to play the actual content :-/
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Depends on: brightcove
Ever confirmed: true
Whiteboard: [mobile-compat-form] → [mobile-compat-form][lib-brightcove]
(Fixing the usual sniffing doesn't seem to help here. I'll try to keep digging, for example from onVideoPlaybackAfterAd() in admin.brightcove.com/viewer/us20131111.1220/js/BrightcovePlayer_api_ad.js )
Forgot to mention: the problem is that the video (inside Brightcove IFRAME) is display:none and not playing. If you throw in some code to set display:block and call play() it works fine.
Hm. This *seems* to be some botched backend sniffing at Doubleclick (!), not FT's fault at all. It seems this script URL: <script src="http://ad.no.doubleclick.net/N5887/adj/ftcom.5887.video/video-hub;sz=239x90;a=z1686;a=z887;a=z888;a=z1406;a=z1407;a=z1672;a=z1673;a=z1687;a=J07717_0;14=nor;cn=eur;loc=iezcaizbdfzcfe;uuid=26484c04-8753-11e2-bde6-00144feabdc0;ts=20131114230930;cc=n;brand=short%20view;section=markets;ttid=2838591702001;plid=2228337108001;lnid=69917354001;specialbadging=editorschoice;pos=newssubs;bht=true;rfrsh=false;tile=4;ord=955734860958613?"></script> will return HTML, not JS, for the Firefox OS user-agent string. This, in turn, will later confuse the Google Interactive Media Ads framework so that it first decides the prepend an ad video before the real video, and then fails to actually play the real video when the ad is done. At least that's the way it looks, since simply spoofing as Firefox on Android for ad.no.doubleclick.net makes all the FT videos play fine on my Firefox OS phone..
Summary: video.ft.com plays adverts only, not video content on Firefox OS → doubleclick backend sniffing breaks video.ft.com - plays adverts only, not video content on Firefox OS
Whiteboard: [mobile-compat-form][lib-brightcove] → [mobile-compat-form][lib-brightcove][doubleclick][google][country-us][serversniff][contactready]
There's a support channel for Google's Interactive Media Ads stuff on Google groups: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ima-sdk/ByqssqMrF8s Might be a good way to contact Google?
Contacted Alex about it.
Assignee: nobody → kdubost
Alex said on 2013-11-20 "The internal issue ID is #11789992. I'll update this thread with progress."
still a problem
Hi Ryan from Google here. I work on the video ads sdk. First I tried in firefox 29 and I am able to get the configuration error from our ads sdk when I just play this in firefox (after disabling flash). This may be a problem that is fixable by just correctly configuring the sdk. However, the playback is not halted on firefox. It may also be possible that there is some logic in our sdk that is not compatible with firefox OS. I am going to try to replicate in Firefox OS next.
(In reply to Ryan Thompson from comment #11) > Hi Ryan from Google here. I work on the video ads sdk. Hi Ryan, many thanks for looking into this! > It may also be possible that there is some logic in our sdk that is not > compatible with firefox OS. So, it seemed mostly like a backend (server-side) browser-detection issue, where given URLs would return HTML instead of JS to some User-Agent strings (see comment #5 and comment #9). But the whole behaviour was very confusing and took me a lot of digging ;). If you work on the client scripts, you might be able to figure out easily whether/how the code that expects JS could handle HTML content - but the real bug is probably in the backend sniffing. Hope you'll figure it out much faster than me :)
Hi Ryan, I thought I'd never complain about a website having too few ads, but video.ft.com does indeed seem to give you a lot of video for way too little ad viewing :-p Seems something has changed here anyway. Earlier, I would test this by using for example Fiddler HTTP debugger's request composer feature, and request the URL in comment #5 with this User-Agent header: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Mobile; rv:30.0) Gecko/30.0 Firefox/30.0 It would return HTML until I added for example "Android; " before "Mobile" in the string, and JS once I added that token. Returning HTML for a <script> element is obviously pretty broken. However, I no longer see this problem for that URL. I don't know if that means the ad is outdated and withdrawn, or that the problem is no longer there.. I don't see the problem on Desktop at all (with or without ads) when spoofing as Firefox OS. On device, I was just lucky enough to get an ad video on http://video.ft.com/3580696926001/Can-Microsoft-hybrid-deliver-/mostpopular and it's hanging before the real video loads.. :-/ But none of the requests really seem similar to the one in comment #5, so maybe I need to look at this again.
Hi all, This link should consistently serve an advert,let me know if it doesn't http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/preview_cookie?gct=T0vE1mh5am4YveawnAUwvYLmowWIAYCAgKDj9Y30ag&op=set&redirect=http://video.ft.com/2692489117001/Singapore-wealth-managers-tested/companies&redirect_hash=AJlzBa2y0trmnu3v_tk6onGPElvfN59WTg&lineItemId=161471929&creativeId=34967067049
Thanks for that link. I *do* see a problem fairly consistently when using a Firefox OS User-Agent on a device. When it occurs, I see the ad run fine, then I get the spinning circle "loading" animation forever. There's a cryptic "element not found" error in the console, referencing some inline script in the brightcove IFRAME I think - I don't understand where this comes from yet..
Jim, Going to http://video.ft.com/2692489117001/Singapore-wealth-managers-tested/companies I see the advertisement and then a spinning wheel with the second video never starting. putting the needinfo for my message and hallvord.
Whiteboard: [mobile-compat-form][lib-brightcove][doubleclick][google][country-us][serversniff][contactready] → [mobile-compat-form][lib-brightcove][doubleclick][google][country-us][serversniff][sitewait]
Hi Karl, The link you posted works for me showing both the advert and the main video (desktop FF 31.0). I'd suggest sticking to http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/preview_cookie?gct=T0vE1mh5am4YveawnAUwvYLmowWIAYCAgKDj9Y30ag&op=set&redirect=http://video.ft.com/2692489117001/Singapore-wealth-managers-tested/companies&redirect_hash=AJlzBa2y0trmnu3v_tk6onGPElvfN59WTg&lineItemId=161471929&creativeId=34967067049 in order to consistently see an advert. FYI I'm no longer with the FT but if you need an internal contact I can direct you to some people.
Hi Jim, * About Advert: Yes in FF *desktop*, but not in Firefox OS, which is the issue at stake. :) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Mobile; rv:30.0) Gecko/30.0 Firefox/30.0 * About contact: That would be great! Thanks a lot.
No problem, Robert Shilston is the director of engineering at the FT, if you give him a short description of the problem he will be able to point you to the most relevant person. His email is robert.shilston on the ft.com domain. Thanks, Jim
As the Doubleclick backend browser sniffing seems fixed, I'm wondering whether the remaining issue may be on our side. "Plays only first video clip, not next" reminds me of bug 1029552 and friends. I'd like to re-test this one when we have a fix over there - marking [notcontactready] for now.
See Also: → 1029552
Whiteboard: [mobile-compat-form][lib-brightcove][doubleclick][google][country-us][serversniff][sitewait] → [mobile-compat-form][lib-brightcove][doubleclick][google][country-us][serversniff][notcontactready]
Hi Hallvord, were you able to retest this? I have a partner, m.focus.de from germany who wants to build a FxOS app, but is also having issue with doubleclick videos when they are played back in the FxOS app. How could we move this forward? Thanks, Oliver
(In reply to oduric from comment #22) > Hi Hallvord, were you able to retest this? I'm planning to get back to this when bug 1029552 is fixed, and it isn't yet. I have a partner, m.focus.de from > germany who wants to build a FxOS app, but is also having issue with > doubleclick videos when they are played back in the FxOS app. I see the problem indeed, very similar symptoms on m.focus.de playback and video.ft.com. I'm asking for an update in that other bug. > How could we move this forward? > > Thanks, Oliver
We're no longer actively following up Firefox OS issues. Closing this.
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 4 years ago
Priority: -- → P5
Resolution: --- → INVALID
Product: Tech Evangelism → Web Compatibility
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