Folder charset UI: Need more simple and general explanation of "force the folder charset" checkbox

VERIFIED FIXED in mozilla0.9.6

Status

P3
normal
VERIFIED FIXED
17 years ago
10 years ago

People

(Reporter: ji, Assigned: nhottanscp)

Tracking

({intl})

Trunk
mozilla0.9.6

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(Not tracked)

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(1 attachment)

(Reporter)

Description

17 years ago
On the folder charset UI, there is a checkbox to let the user to use the
specified folder charset to overwrite the MIME charset info of the mails  in
this particular folder, and it can also be used to overwrite the charset
detected by auto-detector.

On the current build, the usage of the checkbox is explained as 
"Apply default to all messages (ignore charset specified by MIME header)"

It's not easy to understand and it doesn't include the case for the autodetector
charset overwriting.
I suggest we use more simple and general explanation of the checkbox usage.
(Reporter)

Comment 1

17 years ago
There are some discussions about the wording in bug 78891.

Comment 2

17 years ago
move to m0.9.5
Target Milestone: --- → mozilla0.9.5

Comment 3

17 years ago
Here's my suggestion on this:

Name: (Name of a mailbox) -- pull down menu
Default Character Coding: (Name of encoding) -- pull-down menu

[] Apply default to all messages in the folder: ignore both the
   MIME charset header in the messages (if there is one) and 
   an Auto-detector (if one is set).

jglick -- please review the wording. "if there is ..." part is meaningful 
          because this default will apply equally to folders with or
          without the MIME charset and/or auto-detectors.

Comment 4

17 years ago
Momoi, that wording is good, just a few minor points.
*   You should avoid using `charset', which would be about as acceptable in
    Mozilla's UI as `gosub' or `foobar' would be -- i.e., not acceptable at all.
*   You should find some way of avoiding the repeated parantheses, which are a
    bit clumsy. (The stack size in the brain of your average computer user is 
    considerably less than the stack size in the brain of your average i18n
    engineer.)
*   You need to shorten the text by about 70 or 80 percent, so that people have
    a snowball's chance of getting to the end without forgetting what it was
    they read at the beginning.
OS: other → All
Hardware: PC → All

Comment 5

17 years ago
mpt, thanks for the suggestions.  I will re-work the wording.  "charset" wording
is reflecting the wording used in mail header conventions (just  like browser
charset  info).  "Charset" and "encoding" are sometimes used synonymously in 
i18n field but probably we shoud not hoist this same convention onto users if we 
can help it. Will be back with re-worked wording.

Comment 6

17 years ago
jbetak: please have a look.
Assignee: yokoyama → jbetak
accepting
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Priority: -- → P3

Updated

17 years ago
Keywords: intl

Comment 8

17 years ago
"Character coding" needs a ":" at the end.

Checkbox should be indented under :Character coding:" since it is specific to 
this item and a "General" separate setting.

Wording: cc'ing Robin for suggestions.

"Apply to all messages in this folder (individual message settings will be 
overidden)."  ?

OR

"Apply to all messages in this folder (individual message character coding 
settings will be overidden)."  ?




Comment 9

17 years ago
correction: and *not* a "general" setting. (sorry)

Comment 10

17 years ago
Jen, your second suggestion is fine. The only change I'd make is to replace
"overridden" with "ignored", i.e., "Apply to all messages in this folder
(individual message character coding settings will be ignored)."

Comment 11

17 years ago
OK. Here's the revised proposal incorporating mpt, jglick, robinf's
suggestions. Note that that "auto-detection" needs to be mentioned.
Inclusion of reference to auto-detection was what motivated this 
bug in the 1st place.

============= Revised proposal ===============

Name: (Name of a mailbox) -- pull down menu
Default Character Coding: (Name of encoding) -- pull-down menu

  [] Apply default to all messages in the folder (individual message 
     character coding settings and auto-detection will be ignored).

============= End ===============

Target Milestone: mozilla0.9.5 → mozilla0.9.6

Comment 12

17 years ago
nhotta- this is not the charset MENU itself but related text. Please take care
that. Thanks
Assignee: jbetak → nhotta
Status: ASSIGNED → NEW
(Assignee)

Updated

17 years ago
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
(Assignee)

Comment 13

17 years ago
Created attachment 53859 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch, apply proposed wording change.
Comment on attachment 53859 [details] [diff] [review]
Patch, apply proposed wording change.

sr=sspitzer

assuming jglick / robinf are ok with this wording.
Attachment #53859 - Flags: superreview+

Comment 15

17 years ago
Yes, looks good.
(Assignee)

Comment 16

17 years ago
Checked in to the trunk.
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 17 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
(Reporter)

Comment 17

17 years ago
Verified with 10/30 trunk build.
(Reporter)

Comment 18

17 years ago
Marked it as verified.
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED
Product: MailNews → Core
Product: Core → MailNews Core
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