987952 - Add hostinger private domains to the PSL

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(Core Graveyard :: Networking: Domain Lists, defect)

Description

[Ángel]

Please add esy.es to the Public Suffix List. They are used for free hosting in Hostinger. As stated on http://esy.es/

«Welcome to Hostinger Network!

Hostinger is the biggest free hosting provider on web and we use domain esy.es for our clients websites. Each subdomain on *.esy.es is managed by a different customer.»

which matches precisely the scope of the Public Suffix List.

Comment 1

[Ángel]

The following domains hold that description:
16mb.com → Hostinger International
96.lt → II Hosting Media
besaba.com → Hostinger International Ltd.
bl.ee → Marcaria
esy.es → Marcaria
eorg.pl → Michau Enterprises Limited
fskb.pl → Michau Enterprises Limited 
hol.es → Marcaria
howo.pl → Michau Enterprises Limited
id1945.com → Hostinger International Ltd.
meximas.com → Hostinger International Ltd.
pe.hu → Hostinger International Ltd. <domains at marcaria>
pfkm.pl → Michau Enterprises Limited
pusku.com → Hostinger International Ltd.
url.ph → Hostinger International Ltd.
vnrc.pl → Michau Enterprises Limited
vv.si → Hostinger International Ltd. <domains at marcaria>
w.pw → HOSTINGER INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
znek.pl → Michau Enterprises Ltd.
zz.mu → Marcaria

we can see that the whois info (right) usually point to either Hostinger International Ltd or Marcaria (sometimes as the company, sometimes as an individual but with its corporate address), with whois joining both companies in some cases.
The *.pl however, are registered by domain-catching Michau Enterprises Ltd. and 96.lt by a hosting _apparently_ unrelated.

Nevertheless, after creating an account there, you are offered the following subdomains (which are thus certainly theirs):
esy.es
url.ph
bl.ee
meximas.com
96.lt
besaba.com
hol.es

Comment 2

[Ángel]

The existing entry co.pl in the PSL is linked to Michau Enterprises Limited, although it seems a completely different service.

Comment 3

[Ángel]

Resolving the domains, all of them but the *.pl and w.pw are in hostinger range 31.170.164.0/23.

16mb.com 31.170.164.52
96.lt 31.170.165.40
besaba.com 31.170.165.5
bl.ee 31.170.165.116
esy.es 31.170.165.16
eorg.pl 159.253.136.117
fskb.pl 85.92.83.139
hol.es 31.170.165.1
howo.pl 81.19.186.160
id1945.com 31.170.165.10
meximas.com 31.170.165.11
pe.hu 31.170.164.108
pfkm.pl 173.192.220.101
pusku.com 31.170.165.5
url.ph 31.170.164.241
vnrc.pl 143.95.80.110
vv.si 31.170.165.16
w.pw Error resolving ‘w.pw’: Unknown host
znek.pl 174.37.183.102
zz.mu 31.170.165.15


Glueing the *.pl is a bit harder, though:
vnrc.pl 143.95.80.110  [Org-Name:A Small Orange]
eorg.pl 159.253.136.117 (ams1.myserverhosts.com) [A Small Orange LLC]
pfkm.pl 173.192.220.101 (useast12.myserverhosts.com)
fskb.pl 85.92.83.139 (uk5.myserverhosts.com)
howo.pl 81.19.186.160 [from same router as above]


All the above domains use a wildcard dns reply / return the same ip for any subdomain requested (except for w.pw, which is no longer in dns).

Comment 4

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

Hi Ángel,

I really appreciate your hard work on the PSL, but our rule is that we don't accept updates to the private company section of the PSL except from representatives of the private companies themselves.

Gerv

Comment 5

[Ángel]

I see. Much simpler from Mozilla perspective, although it seems less secure for the users of those domains actually acting as private tlds. Many hosts won't bother requesting it, and I suspect most of them won't even know about it.

We will work with an augmented copy when we need those.

Thanks for clarifying

Comment 6

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

Getting added to the PSL when you aren't expecting it can break your website. That's a situation we want to avoid, so we require site owners to opt in, and we try and make sure they understand the consequences.

Gerv