1013327 - Tarako offers bn-BD instead of bn-IN

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(Firefox OS Graveyard :: Gaia::L10n, defect)

Description

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

From bug 1012799:

> https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/v1.3t/locales/languages_all.json#L7
> , compare with the string displayed on the device, "বাংলা (বাংলাদেশ)".
> That's also what navigator.language reports when I set my phone to use this
> language.

We should be using bn-IN for Bengali, right?  Marking as 1.3T? and needinfo'ing jcheng to get attention

Comment 1

[[:fabrice] Fabrice Desré]

Delphine, is that right?

Comment 2

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

As per comment 1: it depends, do you want Bengali from Bengal (bn-BD) or Bengali from India (bn-IN)?
We've asked time and again during various discussions about this - but never got an answer.
I suspect you want Bengali from India though.
But yeah: you've got Bengali from Bengal (bn-BD)

Comment 3

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

Ah yes: reading again the title of this bug: you do want bn-IN and you have bn-BD

Comment 4

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

I'll finish building the Marketplace package assuming we'll be using bn-IN

Comment 5

[Naoki Hirata :nhirata (please use needinfo instead of cc)]

Hi James, this seems like a bad bug in that we want BD-IN ( bug 1007216 )

Comment 6

[James Zhang (Spreadtrum)]

loop yang

Comment 7

[yang.zhao]

(In reply to Naoki Hirata :nhirata (please use needinfo instead of cc) from comment #5)
> Hi James, this seems like a bad bug in that we want BD-IN ( bug 1007216 )
Hi,Naoki
   Should I change the bn-BD into bn-IN ?

Comment 8

[Naoki Hirata :nhirata (please use needinfo instead of cc)]

According to what the Marketplace has, I think so.  I am still waiting word from Steven about this.  I just want to make sure that we are all on the same page.

Comment 9

[Steven Yang [:styang]]

(In reply to Naoki Hirata :nhirata (please use needinfo instead of cc) from comment #8)
> According to what the Marketplace has, I think so.  I am still waiting word
> from Steven about this.  I just want to make sure that we are all on the
> same page.

India is the target launch country, we should use BN-IN.

Comment 10

[yang.zhao]

Hi,James
   From bug 1012799 ,it seems that we should use bn-IN.
   In https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/gaia-l10n/v1_4/bn-IN/ ,the bn-IN seems on v1.4.
   Do we need to modify bn-BD into bn-IN ?If not,the Marketplace may wrongly displays.

Comment 11

[James Zhang (Spreadtrum)]

We need bn-IN for v1.3.

Comment 12

[Keven Kuo [:kkuo]]

Hi! James,

Could zhao yang take this case and modify file, "device/sprd/sp6821a_gonk/prod_sp6821a.mk" as "bn-IN" accordingly? Thanks

--
Keven

Comment 13

[yang.zhao]

(In reply to Keven Kuo [:kkuo] from comment #12)
> Hi! James,
> 
> Could zhao yang take this case and modify file,
> "device/sprd/sp6821a_gonk/prod_sp6821a.mk" as "bn-IN" accordingly? Thanks
> 
> --
> Keven

Hi,Keven
   First,I should get the bn-IN language package under gaia-l10n.Usually we config it under manifest.xml like this:
   <project name="l10n/bn-BD/gaia" path="gaia-l10n/bn-BD" remote="mozillaorg" revision="v1.3" />

Can we acess bn-IN which is in v1.4 ?

Comment 14

[James Zhang (Spreadtrum)]

Our Indian QA said bn-BD translation is the same as bn-IN. Please don't add new gaia-l10n git repo.

Comment 15

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

I don't really agree with comment 14. Just FYI: as you can see from Transvision tool that compares bn-BD and bn-IN, these locales are not the same http://transvision-beta.mozfr.org/3locales/?recherche=the&repo=gaia&sourcelocale=en-US&locale=bn-BD&locale2=bn-IN&search_type=strings

FWIW: bn-IN exists and is complete in 1.4, but it's still being tested by community

Comment 16

[Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - Use needinfo]]

We were discussing the differences between bn-IN and bn-BD during our l10n workweek recently. 
Just for confirmation and to be able to evaluate things correctly, adding Arky, Mak (bn-ND localizer) and Biraj (bn-IN localizer) in CC

Comment 17

[James Zhang (Spreadtrum)]

Yang, let our Indian QA comment here.

Comment 18

[Biraj Karmakar [:biraj]]

(In reply to Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - use needinfo] from comment #15)
> I don't really agree with comment 14. Just FYI: as you can see from
> Transvision tool that compares bn-BD and bn-IN, these locales are not the
> same
> http://transvision-beta.mozfr.org/3locales/
> ?
recherche=the&repo=gaia&sourcelocale=en-US&locale=bn-BD&locale2=bn-
> IN&search_type=strings
> 
> FWIW: bn-IN exists and is complete in 1.4, but it's still being tested by
> community

Delphine you are correct :). bn-IN is from Bengali India and our pronunciation is fully different.

Comment 19

[Mahay Alam Khan]

(In reply to Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - use needinfo] from comment #16)
> We were discussing the differences between bn-IN and bn-BD during our l10n
> workweek recently. 
> Just for confirmation and to be able to evaluate things correctly, adding
> Arky, Mak (bn-ND localizer) and Biraj (bn-IN localizer) in CC

IMHO, bn-BD and bn-IN don't have much differences, we speak same language with different dialect based on the different region/social group throughout the greater Bengal region.

Comment 20

[yang.zhao]

Our Indian QA said:Both language are same , Bengali India and Bengali Bangladesh is same.
So should we just keep the bn-BD since bn-IN is still in test?

Comment 21

[yang.zhao]

(In reply to Biraj Karmakar [:biraj] from comment #18)
> (In reply to Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - use needinfo] from comment #15)
> > I don't really agree with comment 14. Just FYI: as you can see from
> > Transvision tool that compares bn-BD and bn-IN, these locales are not the
> > same
> > http://transvision-beta.mozfr.org/3locales/
> > ?
> recherche=the&repo=gaia&sourcelocale=en-US&locale=bn-BD&locale2=bn-
> > IN&search_type=strings
> > 
> > FWIW: bn-IN exists and is complete in 1.4, but it's still being tested by
> > community
> 
> Delphine you are correct :). bn-IN is from Bengali India and our
> pronunciation is fully different.

Hi,since you say the pronunciation is fully different,I'd like to know whether the handwriting is different ?

Comment 22

[Biraj Karmakar [:biraj]]

(In reply to yang.zhao from comment #21)
> (In reply to Biraj Karmakar [:biraj] from comment #18)
> > (In reply to Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - use needinfo] from comment #15)
> > > I don't really agree with comment 14. Just FYI: as you can see from
> > > Transvision tool that compares bn-BD and bn-IN, these locales are not the
> > > same
> > > http://transvision-beta.mozfr.org/3locales/
> > > ?
> > recherche=the&repo=gaia&sourcelocale=en-US&locale=bn-BD&locale2=bn-
> > > IN&search_type=strings
> > > 
> > > FWIW: bn-IN exists and is complete in 1.4, but it's still being tested by
> > > community
> > 
> > Delphine you are correct :). bn-IN is from Bengali India and our
> > pronunciation is fully different.
> 
> Hi,since you say the pronunciation is fully different,I'd like to know
> whether the handwriting is different ?

As same characters are there . So handwriting is same also.

Comment 23

[yang.zhao]

(In reply to Biraj Karmakar [:biraj] from comment #22)
> (In reply to yang.zhao from comment #21)
> > (In reply to Biraj Karmakar [:biraj] from comment #18)
> > > (In reply to Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - use needinfo] from comment #15)
> > > > I don't really agree with comment 14. Just FYI: as you can see from
> > > > Transvision tool that compares bn-BD and bn-IN, these locales are not the
> > > > same
> > > > http://transvision-beta.mozfr.org/3locales/
> > > > ?
> > > recherche=the&repo=gaia&sourcelocale=en-US&locale=bn-BD&locale2=bn-
> > > > IN&search_type=strings
> > > > 
> > > > FWIW: bn-IN exists and is complete in 1.4, but it's still being tested by
> > > > community
> > > 
> > > Delphine you are correct :). bn-IN is from Bengali India and our
> > > pronunciation is fully different.
> > 
> > Hi,since you say the pronunciation is fully different,I'd like to know
> > whether the handwriting is different ?
> 
> As same characters are there . So handwriting is same also.
Did you mean bn-BD and bn-IN are same in handwriting ,but the pronunciation is different ?

Comment 24

[Biraj Karmakar [:biraj]]

(In reply to yang.zhao from comment #23)
> (In reply to Biraj Karmakar [:biraj] from comment #22)
> > (In reply to yang.zhao from comment #21)
> > > (In reply to Biraj Karmakar [:biraj] from comment #18)
> > > > (In reply to Delphine Lebédel [:delphine - use needinfo] from comment #15)
> > > > > I don't really agree with comment 14. Just FYI: as you can see from
> > > > > Transvision tool that compares bn-BD and bn-IN, these locales are not the
> > > > > same
> > > > > http://transvision-beta.mozfr.org/3locales/
> > > > > ?
> > > > recherche=the&repo=gaia&sourcelocale=en-US&locale=bn-BD&locale2=bn-
> > > > > IN&search_type=strings
> > > > > 
> > > > > FWIW: bn-IN exists and is complete in 1.4, but it's still being tested by
> > > > > community
> > > > 
> > > > Delphine you are correct :). bn-IN is from Bengali India and our
> > > > pronunciation is fully different.
> > > 
> > > Hi,since you say the pronunciation is fully different,I'd like to know
> > > whether the handwriting is different ?
> > 
> > As same characters are there . So handwriting is same also.
> Did you mean bn-BD and bn-IN are same in handwriting ,but the pronunciation
> is different ?

Handwriting depends on pronounciation also.

Comment 25

[yang.zhao]

After discussing with James ,we think it's better if you modify on the server side with some location information .
Maybe it's more reasonable to use the location information for deciding which language you should use. Such as ,if you detect that you are in Bangladesh ,you should use bn-BD;but if you are in  India ,you might should use bn-IN.
I think it's not proper that you use bn-IN for Bengali just because the target market is India.
Just imagine a scenario like this :I am an Indian ,but I set English as the phone's language,then which language should you choose for marketplace ,Bengali or English ?

Comment 26

[Naoki Hirata :nhirata (please use needinfo instead of cc)]

I'm not sure how this will work with switching.  I believe we rely on the bn-IN/bn-BD input for the l10n to make sure we switch to the right language?  Maybe I am wrong.  ie if the phone is set to bn-BD and the marketplace is set to bn-IN, it will not switch over to bn-IN and default to English.

Comment 27

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

(In reply to Naoki Hirata :nhirata (please use needinfo instead of cc) from comment #26)
> I'm not sure how this will work with switching.  I believe we rely on the
> bn-IN/bn-BD input for the l10n to make sure we switch to the right language?
> Maybe I am wrong.  ie if the phone is set to bn-BD and the marketplace is
> set to bn-IN, it will not switch over to bn-IN and default to English.

That is correct, and is also correct for every website the user will visit on the phone.  If you want to use the bn-BD translations for bn-IN they should be copied into the bn-IN localization files and pushed into the build.

Comment 28

[Biraj Karmakar [:biraj]]

(In reply to Wil Clouser [:clouserw] from comment #27)
> (In reply to Naoki Hirata :nhirata (please use needinfo instead of cc) from
> comment #26)
> > I'm not sure how this will work with switching.  I believe we rely on the
> > bn-IN/bn-BD input for the l10n to make sure we switch to the right language?
> > Maybe I am wrong.  ie if the phone is set to bn-BD and the marketplace is
> > set to bn-IN, it will not switch over to bn-IN and default to English.
> 
> That is correct, and is also correct for every website the user will visit
> on the phone.  If you want to use the bn-BD translations for bn-IN they
> should be copied into the bn-IN localization files and pushed into the build.

I am bit confused here. Why we use bn-BD translation for bn-IN?

Comment 29

[Joe Cheng [:jcheng] (please needinfo)]

(In reply to yang.zhao from comment #25)
> I think it's not proper that you use bn-IN for Bengali just because the
> target market is India.
> Just imagine a scenario like this :I am an Indian ,but I set English as the
> phone's language,then which language should you choose for marketplace
> ,Bengali or English ?

per discussion with Steven, for Bengali in India, it's bn-IN
if you choose English in India, it's en-IN
so we should use bn-IN

Comment 30

[Joe Cheng [:jcheng] (please needinfo)]

hi Yang.zhao, do you now agree on making changes to use bn-IN for Bengali locale? Thanks

Comment 31

[Joe Cheng [:jcheng] (please needinfo)]

ni? james.zhang for comment 30

Comment 32

[James Zhang (Spreadtrum)]

We can agree only adding bn-IN but don't agree changing translation now.
For example, 'en-IN' 'en-US' using same translation, and 'bn-IN' 'bn-BD' using same translation.

Comment 33

[yang.zhao]

(In reply to Joe Cheng [:jcheng] from comment #30)
> hi Yang.zhao, do you now agree on making changes to use bn-IN for Bengali
> locale? Thanks
Hi,Joe
   Since we have tested bn-BD for a period of time ,so to be honest ,we don't want change it to bn-IN .But on your side ,you use bn-IN for marketplace,to solve this issue,maybe there two ways:
1,Modify bn-In to bn-BD on your side ,that means you use bn-Bn for marketplace.This is a simple resolution.
2,We only add the name tag bn-IN ,but keep the bn-BD translation ,because we haven't tested the bn-IN translation .Just like comment #32 said.
If you don't agree on the method 1,do you agree on method 2 ?

Comment 34

[Naoki Hirata :nhirata (please use needinfo instead of cc)]

I think this might be either Caitlin or Wil's call here...
Caitlin, Wil, please see comment 33

Comment 35

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

This is not a Marketplace bug or a Marketplace fix.  You're talking about the language the phone will request from every website it visits not just the Marketplace app.  I don't speak the language, but if bn-IN and bn-BD are different enough to be debated for 34 comments, this should be fixed on the device or people will get the wrong language when they click around the internet.

Comment 36

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

To be clear regarding comment 33, I do not think we should do #1 and I think #2 is a last resort.

For English speakers, the closest comparison I can make is something like en-US vs en-GB where most of it is similar but s's are z's and there are extra u's and "I'm on vacation and forgot my cell phone" becomes "I'm on holiday and forgot my mobile."  It's localized - it fits the region.  How awkward it would be with one or the other only someone familiar with the language and both regions could say.

Comment 37

[James Zhang (Spreadtrum)]

Is en-IN and bn-IN ready for v1.3 or v1.3t now?

Comment 38

[James Zhang (Spreadtrum)]

Yang, please test en-IN and bn-In v1.4 on my side.

Comment 39

[yang.zhao]

(In reply to Joe Cheng [:jcheng] from comment #31)
> ni? james.zhang for comment 30
hi,Joe
   Does en-IN exsit ?I can't find it on http://hg.mozilla.org/gaia-l10n

Comment 40

[yang.zhao]

Since Tarako is based on v1.3,but there is no v1.3 version for bn-IN,I had to use bn-IN on v1.4.
After I compare bn-BD on v1.3 with bn-IN on v1.4,they are not the same actually,some of the l10n-id are different between the two.So we may use #2 in comment #33 ,and in that situation we modify the following two files:
#File 1:manifest.xml:
   <project name="l10n/bn-BD/gaia" path="gaia-l10n/bn-BD" remote="mozillaorg" revision="sprdb2g_v1.3t" />
 change it to:
   <project name="l10n/bn-BD/gaia" path="gaia-l10n/bn-IN" remote="mozillaorg" revision="sprdb2g_v1.3t" />
#File 2:/device/sprd/sp6821a_gonk/languages.json
   "bn-BD"     : "বাংলা (বাংলাদেশ)"
  change it to:
    "bn-IN"     : "বাংলা (ভারত)"
#And may also replace 'bn-BD' into 'bn-IN' in other files such as prod_sp6821a.mk.

hi,Kaizhen
   Can we use this method ?Thank you.

Comment 41

[Kai-Zhen Li [:seinlin][:kli]]

Yang,

1. I am not sure if there is any difference between the term used in bn-IN and bn-BD. May be you can get more info from your colleague whose native tongue is Bengali.

2. Yes, I think the correct country name should used.
"বাংলা (বাংলাদেশ)" ---> Bengali (Bangladesh)
"বাংলা (ভারত)" ---> Bengali (India)

3. Need to use bn-IN in prod_sp6821a.mk, because bn-IN will install more fonts than bn-BD.

Comment 42

[chris hofmann]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_language  has a write-up on the origins and differences of bengali dialects.  Can we get a few people to comment on the accuracy of that, and expand on which of the dialects are used/supported in the two bengali versions that we have?   

In particular this passage was interesting to me:
>
During the standardization of Bengali in the 19th century and early 20th century, the cultural center of Bengal was in the city of Calcutta (now Kolkata), founded by the British. What is accepted as the standard form today in both West Bengal and Bangladesh is based on the West-Central dialect of Nadia District, located next to the border of Bangladesh.[41] There are cases where speakers of Standard Bengali in West Bengal will use a different word from a speaker of Standard Bengali in Bangladesh, even though both words are of native Bengali descent. For example, the word salt is নুন nun in the west which corresponds to লবণ lôbôn in the east.[42]
>

It would also be good to outline the regions and cities where this version is intended to be sold and marketed.

From there we could all understand how good of a match we have between the localizations and the areas where phones might be sold.

Also, there has been talk of creating en-IN localizations on desktop and Mozilla products but I'm unaware of any work toward producing it.

Comment 43

[Joe Cheng [:jcheng] (please needinfo)]

lets focus on bengali here

Comment 44

[James Zhang (Spreadtrum)]

(In reply to yang.zhao from comment #40)
> Since Tarako is based on v1.3,but there is no v1.3 version for bn-IN,I had
> to use bn-IN on v1.4.
> After I compare bn-BD on v1.3 with bn-IN on v1.4,they are not the same
> actually,some of the l10n-id are different between the two.So we may use #2
> in comment #33 ,and in that situation we modify the following two files:
> #File 1:manifest.xml:
>    <project name="l10n/bn-BD/gaia" path="gaia-l10n/bn-BD"
> remote="mozillaorg" revision="sprdb2g_v1.3t" />
>  change it to:
>    <project name="l10n/bn-BD/gaia" path="gaia-l10n/bn-IN"
> remote="mozillaorg" revision="sprdb2g_v1.3t" />
> #File 2:/device/sprd/sp6821a_gonk/languages.json
>    "bn-BD"     : "বাংলা (বাংলাদেশ)"
>   change it to:
>     "bn-IN"     : "বাংলা (ভারত)"
> #And may also replace 'bn-BD' into 'bn-IN' in other files such as
> prod_sp6821a.mk.
> 
> hi,Kaizhen
>    Can we use this method ?Thank you.

Is Yang's solution OK for you?

Comment 45

[Evelyn Hung]

(In reply to James Zhang from comment #44)
> (In reply to yang.zhao from comment #40)
> > Since Tarako is based on v1.3,but there is no v1.3 version for bn-IN,I had
> > to use bn-IN on v1.4.
> > After I compare bn-BD on v1.3 with bn-IN on v1.4,they are not the same
> > actually,some of the l10n-id are different between the two.So we may use #2
> > in comment #33 ,and in that situation we modify the following two files:
> > #File 1:manifest.xml:
> >    <project name="l10n/bn-BD/gaia" path="gaia-l10n/bn-BD"
> > remote="mozillaorg" revision="sprdb2g_v1.3t" />
> >  change it to:
> >    <project name="l10n/bn-BD/gaia" path="gaia-l10n/bn-IN"
> > remote="mozillaorg" revision="sprdb2g_v1.3t" />
> > #File 2:/device/sprd/sp6821a_gonk/languages.json
> >    "bn-BD"     : "বাংলা (বাংলাদেশ)"
> >   change it to:
> >     "bn-IN"     : "বাংলা (ভারত)"
> > #And may also replace 'bn-BD' into 'bn-IN' in other files such as
> > prod_sp6821a.mk.
> > 
> > hi,Kaizhen
> >    Can we use this method ?Thank you.
> 
> Is Yang's solution OK for you?

Please don't do a hack like this. We should carefully check the difference between "bn-BD" and "bn-IN", per comment 24 and comment 28, they are really different.

Comment 46

[yang.zhao]

(In reply to Evelyn Hung [:evelyn] from comment #45)
> (In reply to James Zhang from comment #44)
> > (In reply to yang.zhao from comment #40)
> > > Since Tarako is based on v1.3,but there is no v1.3 version for bn-IN,I had
> > > to use bn-IN on v1.4.
> > > After I compare bn-BD on v1.3 with bn-IN on v1.4,they are not the same
> > > actually,some of the l10n-id are different between the two.So we may use #2
> > > in comment #33 ,and in that situation we modify the following two files:
> > > #File 1:manifest.xml:
> > >    <project name="l10n/bn-BD/gaia" path="gaia-l10n/bn-BD"
> > > remote="mozillaorg" revision="sprdb2g_v1.3t" />
> > >  change it to:
> > >    <project name="l10n/bn-BD/gaia" path="gaia-l10n/bn-IN"
> > > remote="mozillaorg" revision="sprdb2g_v1.3t" />
> > > #File 2:/device/sprd/sp6821a_gonk/languages.json
> > >    "bn-BD"     : "বাংলা (বাংলাদেশ)"
> > >   change it to:
> > >     "bn-IN"     : "বাংলা (ভারত)"
> > > #And may also replace 'bn-BD' into 'bn-IN' in other files such as
> > > prod_sp6821a.mk.
> > > 
> > > hi,Kaizhen
> > >    Can we use this method ?Thank you.
> > 
> > Is Yang's solution OK for you?
> 
> Please don't do a hack like this. We should carefully check the difference
> between "bn-BD" and "bn-IN", per comment 24 and comment 28, they are really
> different.
But bn-IN doesn't have a v1.3 version while Tarako is based on v1.3.What do you think about how to resolve this issue ,per comment 1.

Comment 47

[Marvin Khoo [:Marvin_Khoo]]

Hi all,
Thanks Yang to provide opt #1 and #2 in comment 33, however, i guess both opt is not doable.

if FT team feedback there is no diff between bn-BD and bn-IN, i would say let's check if partner(s) accept it. I sent an email to Neeraj to confirm this.

meantime, we do need to think about backup plan, either to evaluate effort / time for new translation of bn-IN and keyboard layout or any possibility to leverage from others.

Comment 48

[Kai-Zhen Li [:seinlin][:kli]]

(In reply to Marvin Khoo [:Marvin_Khoo] from comment #47)
> Hi all,
> Thanks Yang to provide opt #1 and #2 in comment 33, however, i guess both
> opt is not doable.
> 
> if FT team feedback there is no diff between bn-BD and bn-IN, i would say
> let's check if partner(s) accept it. I sent an email to Neeraj to confirm
> this.
> 
> meantime, we do need to think about backup plan, either to evaluate effort /
> time for new translation of bn-IN and keyboard layout or any possibility to
> leverage from others.

Marvin, I compared bn-IN and bn-BD on v1.4, the usage are quite different between them. for you reference.

Comment 49

[James Zhang (Spreadtrum)]

Marvin has confirmed with our QA and customer.

Comment 50

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

(In reply to James Zhang from comment #49)
> Marvin has confirmed with our QA and customer.

Please add details - has confirmed what?  This is marked WORKSFORME so your builds send bn-IN?

Comment 51

[Marvin Khoo [:Marvin_Khoo]]

Hi Wil,
There are two things we have consensus now,
1. SPRD India's BD confirmed with customers that bn-BD is acceptable for India

2. But for the 1st wave (targeting Jul, 2014), Moz can only provide English, Hindi and Tamil for India.


Hi James,
As discussed in call last week, 
1. We do NOT prefer / allow to change bn-BD to bn-IN directly due to risk mentioned in comment 35 by Wil.
2. If there is REQ for 1st wave requires bn-IN, we need to schedule / file another bug to track bn-IN readiness. currently Tarako provide bn-BD.

thanks for your help and coordination James!

Comment 52

[Wil Clouser [:clouserw]]

Ok.  Please note the Marketplace is not localized into bn-BD as of now so offering it on device will also need lead time and a new package from the Marketplace.