1136318 - Make mozilla.at point to the same site as mozilla.de

Status: RESOLVED FIXED

(Infrastructure & Operations :: SSL Certificates, task)

Description

[Robert Kaiser]

In the German-speaking community meetup this weekend we came to talk about how mozilla.at has been timing out for quite some time (bug 998793) and how it should actually point to the same community site as mozilla.de.

Both those domains are owned by Mozilla, while the site is run on a personal server (atopal's) right now (there are plans to move it to Mozilla Community IT). Both domains should result in the same site for the foreseeable future.

For that, can you please set mozilla.at up to be a CNAME to mozilla.de?

Comment 1

[Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul]]

removing  mozilla.at	A 	78.47.5.173

Comment 2

[Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul]]

www.mozilla.at -> www.mozilla.de

Comment 3

[Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul]]

Digi , I don't understand why I can't do mozilla.at -> mozilla.de. Can you explain why I can't ?

Comment 4

[Brian Hourigan [:digi]]

(In reply to Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul] from comment #3)
> Digi , I don't understand why I can't do mozilla.at -> mozilla.de. Can you
> explain why I can't ?

I assume you mean CNAMEs. Having a root cname is a violation of RFC. More info:

http://serverfault.com/questions/55528/set-root-domain-record-to-be-a-cname

Comment 5

[Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul]]

Kairo are you satisfied ?

Comment 6

[Robert Kaiser]

(In reply to Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul] from comment #5)
> Kairo are you satisfied ?

I'm satisfied with anything that makes mozilla.at point to the same thing as mozilla.de - given that we can't CNAME, we just need to be aware of this when mozilla.de will be switched to a different server and change both DNS entries then (this is still some time down the road).

Comment 7

[Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul]]

(In reply to Robert Kaiser (:[e-mail]) from comment #6)
> (In reply to Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul] from comment #5)
> > Kairo are you satisfied ?
> 
> I'm satisfied with anything that makes mozilla.at point to the same thing as
> mozilla.de - given that we can't CNAME, we just need to be aware of this
> when mozilla.de will be switched to a different server and change both DNS
> entries then (this is still some time down the road).

I've cnames www to www so that won't be necessary.

Comment 8

[Robert Kaiser]

(In reply to Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul] from comment #7)
> I've cnames www to www so that won't be necessary.

As long as people just typing "mozilla.at" in their browser (including browsers that do not automagically add a "www.") will get to a working mozilla.de website, I'm happy.

Comment 9

[Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul]]

Added an A for mozilla.at to point to the ip of mozilla.de

Comment 10

[Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul]]

Any better ways to do it then what I did above webops ?

Comment 11

[Robert Kaiser]

It's for sure not resolved yet for me (note that I don't really care about the MX, it just happens to be listed as well):


> host mozilla.at
mozilla.at mail is handled by 10 mail.mozilla-europe.org. 
> host www.mozilla.at
Host www.mozilla.at not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

> host mozilla.de
mozilla.de has address 176.9.80.24
mozilla.de mail is handled by 1 aspmx.l.google.com.
mozilla.de mail is handled by 10 aspmx2.googlemail.com.
mozilla.de mail is handled by 5 alt2.aspmx.l.google.com.
mozilla.de mail is handled by 5 alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.
mozilla.de mail is handled by 10 aspmx3.googlemail.com.
> host www.mozilla.de
www.mozilla.de has address 176.9.80.24

Comment 12

[C. Liang [:cyliang]]

Kairo:

Right now, going to either http://mozilla.at or http://www.mozilla.at will redirect you to www.mozilla.de.  If this is NOT what is desired, please let me know.   Trying to visit mozilla.at or www.mozilla.at via HTTPS won't work; it doesn't seen to work for www.mozilla.de either. =)

It looks like there are also records for www-mozilla.at (which don't point at anything) and www.www-mozilla.at.  www.www-mozilla.at points to the static cluster, but there's nothing actually handling a redirect there.)  If these records should be changed to match that of mozilla.at / www.mozilla.at, let me know.

Usul: 

FYI - I believe what you were trying to do didn't work because you needed to make the mozilla.at and www.mozilla.at records public.  (They were set to neither public nor private, so they don't get published. =) ) 

However, just doing the DNS change so that mozilla.at and www.mozilla.at resolve to the same IP as www.mozilla.de won't work.  The web server at 176.9.80.24 is probably NOT configured to handle HTTP requests for the mozilla.at virtual domains and may not have a default "fall-back" HTTP virtual server.

Comment 13

[Robert Kaiser]

(In reply to C. Liang [:cyliang] from comment #12)
> Right now, going to either http://mozilla.at or http://www.mozilla.at will
> redirect you to www.mozilla.de.

Awesome, that is exactly what we want! :)

> It looks like there are also records for www-mozilla.at (which don't point
> at anything) and www.www-mozilla.at.

I had no idea those existed (I guess we freed them from some fraud thing at some point or so). Probably makes sense to have them redirect to whatever mozilla.at itself has, just for completeness, but it shouldn't matter much.

> However, just doing the DNS change so that mozilla.at and www.mozilla.at
> resolve to the same IP as www.mozilla.de won't work.  The web server at
> 176.9.80.24 is probably NOT configured to handle HTTP requests for the
> mozilla.at virtual domains and may not have a default "fall-back" HTTP
> virtual server.

Well, we could have dealt with that as we know the person running that server. But what we have now is fine, thanks!