Make Firefox Win64 builds on the Release channel available on mozilla.org

RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 1229852

Status

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enhancement
RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 1229852
4 years ago
3 years ago

People

(Reporter: kohei, Assigned: kohei)

Tracking

Production
Dependency tree / graph

Firefox Tracking Flags

(firefox41 wontfix, firefox42- wontfix)

Details

(Whiteboard: [kb=1793444] Pending, see Comment 24, URL)

+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #1150083 +++

It's finally coming.
Summary: Make Firefox win64 builds on the Release channel available on mozilla.org → Make Firefox 40 win64 builds on the Release channel available on mozilla.org
Whiteboard: [kb=1793444] → [kb=1793444] live on August 11
Do we want to let users to download win64 builds from everywhere, not only on the /all/ pages? Currently the win64 download buttons are disabled with CSS:

https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/blob/master/media/css/sandstone/buttons.less#L610-L611
The plan is to stick to /all but I'll NI Javaun to confirm.
Flags: needinfo?(jmoradi)
Just /all for Fx40. We have more security and video other improvements coming in 41 and beyond, and those are needed to make the browser safer and more usable for a more mainstream audience
Flags: needinfo?(jmoradi)
Rebecca, I see you've verified the similar work that was done for Beta in bug 1150083. Will you also verify this one?
Flags: needinfo?(rbillings)
Note to people interested in this... if you are just looking forward to the win64 builds, you don't have to wait until August 11! Firefox 40 win64 builds are already available as Beta; go to this page and grab it now: https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/beta/all/

Comment 6

3 years ago
(In reply to Kohei Yoshino [:kohei] from comment #5)
> Note to people interested in this... if you are just looking forward to the
> win64 builds, you don't have to wait until August 11! Firefox 40 win64
> builds are already available as Beta; go to this page and grab it now:
> https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/beta/all/

I think I 'll wait because I'd like to have a release version (stable version) of firefox 40 64 bit  :o)
I don't see this on demo2 or demo4- where can I verify it?
Flags: needinfo?(rbillings)
I haven't send a pull request for this yet. Will do it later this week.
Folks, we've decided not to release win64 builds in Fx40. We have many improvements coming in 41 -- sandboxing and NPAPI whitelisting, and possibly some other fixes -- and it makes sense to hold. I as much as anyone want to see 64 launch, but given the enthusiasm, it's better to wait for a product that has safety and polish 41 will bring.
Summary: Make Firefox 40 win64 builds on the Release channel available on mozilla.org → Make Firefox 41 win64 builds on the Release channel available on mozilla.org
Whiteboard: [kb=1793444] live on August 11 → [kb=1793444] live on September 22
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Javaun, Firefox 42 is the current release target, right?
status-firefox41: --- → wontfix
status-firefox42: --- → affected
Flags: needinfo?(jmoradi)
Summary: Make Firefox 41 win64 builds on the Release channel available on mozilla.org → Make Firefox 42 Win64 builds on the Release channel available on mozilla.org
Firefox 42's release date is 2015-11-03.
Whiteboard: [kb=1793444] live on September 22 → [kb=1793444] live on November 3
This is something we should track for 42.
tracking-firefox42: --- → +

Comment 15

3 years ago
So we'll have or we won't have 64 builds for Firefox 41?
Andre, we will not be releasing 64-bit builds of Firefox 41. Our current plan is to release 64-bit builds with Firefox 42.

Comment 17

3 years ago
What's the reason for that delay?
In my experience, win64 builds are as stable as win32 for a long time already, and doesn't crash on high memory usage as win32 does.

Updated

3 years ago
Depends on: 1180792

Comment 18

3 years ago
(In reply to Ricardo from comment #17)
> What's the reason for that delay?

One of the reasons is bug 1187005.

> In my experience, win64 builds are as stable as win32 for a long time
> already, and doesn't crash on high memory usage as win32 does.

I've been on 64-bit myself for a while now. Some of the 32-bit stuff just has to catch up.

Comment 19

3 years ago
Waiting for all plugins to develop 64-bit compatible versions is an utopia. I don't see why it is a block for anything. Just make x86 the default on download page and allow optional download of x64.
For me it would be enough to have it only in FTP, because I would like to update to x64 releases, which often contain important fixes post-beta period, instead of relying on betas and tinderbox builds (which uses iconset from nightly).

Comment 20

3 years ago
(In reply to Ricardo from comment #19)
> Just make x86 the default on
> download page and allow optional download of x64.

I totally agree with Ricardo. A stable version of firefox win64bit (with flash sandboxing) should be available as soon as possible even if the other plugins don't work. We don't have to wait for Silverlight and Java, which are third-party applications.
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Guys, this bug is only for updating the Web page, not about the release decision. Also, if you want the 64-bit version, you can just grab Firefox Beta now, as I wrote in my Comment 5. Please send comments to the dev-platform list [1] or somewhere else. Thanks.

[1] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Comment 23

3 years ago
Problem is that for both Release Candidate and Release builds there aren't win64 compilations.
Yet, you guys are releasing x64 alpha builds branded as Developer Edition, in a cute web page resembling the build is stable enough, but are obviously less stable considering they come from unstable branches.
This makes no sense to me.
We won't update the download page with Windows 64 builds for 42. We are waiting for some partner changes before making that public.
However, the binaries will be available on the ftp for testing:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest/
status-firefox42: affected → wontfix
tracking-firefox42: + → -

Comment 25

3 years ago
Do you mean that we will be able to download a stable version of Firefox 42 for Windows 64-bit on this ftp page?
I said a "stable" version, not beta.
Thanks.
Flags: needinfo?(sledru)
Oui, Julien, exactly that :)
Flags: needinfo?(sledru)
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Summary: Make Firefox 42 Win64 builds on the Release channel available on mozilla.org → Make Firefox Win64 builds on the Release channel available on mozilla.org
Whiteboard: [kb=1793444] live on November 3 → [kb=1793444] Pending, see Comment 24

Comment 29

3 years ago
Well, it is 11/3 and when I went to the download page I didn't see Winx64 listed.  Are we still waiting on the needinfo (Comment 24) to be resolved?  If so, when will that be answered?

Comment 30

3 years ago
Also, please note that win64 isn't listed on https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/latest/ (I think that's Bug 1180792)

Comment 31

3 years ago
I think Bug 1201904 should block this for IME user(CJK locale).

Comment 32

3 years ago
Firefox 42 for windows x64 is available on the FTP.
But what does "EME-free" mean?
They are, just a bug with the the /latest/ symlink.
EME-free are repack without EME - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encrypted_Media_Extensions

Comment 34

3 years ago
(In reply to alanjstr from comment #30)
> Also, please note that win64 isn't listed on
> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/latest/ (I think that's Bug
> 1180792)

win64 is listed now as well as the win64-EME-free edition.
Flags: needinfo?(jmoradi)

Comment 35

3 years ago
After issue from comment 24 is resolved, will Mozilla offer 64-bit Firefox downloads of Firefox 42 on the main download page, or does this mean that the official 64-bit Firefox downloads will be out instead for Firefox 43? (or later?)

What is the ETA to fix the issues referred to in comment 24?

Will 32-bit users be automatically upgraded to 64-bit Firefox via the FF autoinstaller, or should I recommend friends to do a manual download on the main page once it is available?
(In reply to Jukka Jylänki from comment #35)
> After issue from comment 24 is resolved, will Mozilla offer 64-bit Firefox
> downloads of Firefox 42 on the main download page, or does this mean that
> the official 64-bit Firefox downloads will be out instead for Firefox 43?
> (or later?)

The 64-bit builds are on ftp.mozilla.org, but we don't know when we will be ready to publish them on the main download page.

> What is the ETA to fix the issues referred to in comment 24?

Those partner issues have been fixed.

> Will 32-bit users be automatically upgraded to 64-bit Firefox via the FF
> autoinstaller, or should I recommend friends to do a manual download on the
> main page once it is available?

32-bit Firefox users will eventually be auto-upgraded to 64-bit, but we don't plan to do that until next year after we are comfortable that we won't be breaking users that have 32-bit plugins or binary add-ons. Until then, users must manually download 64-bit Firefox.
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Last Resolved: 3 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
Duplicate of bug: 1229852
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