160387 - pref UI for toggling tab navigation behavior

Status: VERIFIED WONTFIX

(Camino Graveyard :: Preferences, enhancement)

Description

[sairuh (rarely reading bugmail)]

it would be good if chimera had a preference where tabbing within the page
content could be specified. for example, tabbing to only form elements vs
tabbing to every focusable object in a page.

bug 66285 is a broader bug which tries to address it for mozilla, but i'm filing
one here to see if we could implement something (sooner, i'd hope :) for
chimera. perhaps what's developed here might be helpful for the trunk...

Comment 1

[Ben Lukens]

OS X (10.1.5)'s Keyboard / Full Keyboard Access system pref let's you choose
whether to highlight "Text input fields and lists only" or "Any control". The
system's wording/location of this preference is a bit confusing, but it actually
controls whether tabbing runs through just text fields/lists or every control
(and Full Keyboard Access needn't be enabled for this to take effect). It's
basically the same question that we'd be asking in Chimera, so it would make
sense to respect the system's setting.

Comment 2

[Aaron Leventhal]

Should this be a dup of bug 160434?

Comment 3

[Simon Fraser [no longer active]]

No. This bug is about implementing Chimera prefs UI for the feature. Bug 160434
is about the gecko implementation.

Comment 4

[sairuh (rarely reading bugmail)]

over to simon (with his permission).

Comment 5

[sairuh (rarely reading bugmail)]

bug 140612 has been fixed on the mozilla trunk --there's now a backend pref
available for this.

// 1 focuses text controls, 2 focuses other form elements, 4 adds links.
pref("accessibility.tabfocus", 1);

1 is the default setting for mac (and unix) in mozilla.

akkana, i skimmed over the patch and was wondering what choices 3 and 7 mean for
this pref? does 3 mean *all* form elements? does 7 mean *all* focusable elements
(links and all form elements)?

Comment 6

[Akkana Peck]

Exactly: 3 means all form elements but not links; 7 (the mozilla windows
default) means all form elements plus links and images.

Comment 7

[Brant Gurganus]

[RFE] is deprecated in favor of severity: enhancement.  They have the same meaning.

Comment 8

[sairuh (rarely reading bugmail)]

now that camino's on the trunk, we should have this.

see also bug 172641.

Comment 9

[Mark Knopper]

First, shouldn't this be a dup of  bug 172641 or vice versa?

Note that in panther (7B53) they have changed the description of this option. It
now says: Turn on full keyboard access. Turn on full keyboard access to use the
tab key, arrow key and other keys to select buttons, lists and other items on
your screen.

In Camino Build ID: 2003090102, checking or not checking this option seems to
have no effect on tabbing or pressing arrow keys through a form.

Comment 10

[Josh Aas]

Attachment: updated web features nib v1.0

Comment 11

[Josh Aas]

Attachment: tabbing preference patch v1.0

Controls whether or not tabbing also goes to all form controls and links as
well as text fields

Comment 12

[Josh Aas]

marking this 0.9, when we should be doing a big prefs overhaul

Comment 13

[Mike Pinkerton (not reading bugmail)]

we should read the OS pref and set it to whatever mozilla requires to match, no?

Comment 14

[Mike Pinkerton (not reading bugmail)]

*** Bug 172641 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 15

[Ludovic Hirlimann [:Usul]]

shouldn't this one be assigned to josh ?

Comment 16

[Asaf Romano (gone)]

bug 187508 has been fixed.

wontfix?

Comment 17

[Josh Aas]

nsILookAndFeel does this now, pref ui is system prefs, an override system pref
by hand by setting hidden moz pref

Comment 18

[Josh Aas]

nsILookAndFeel does this now, pref ui is system prefs, an override system pref
by hand by setting hidden moz pref

Comment 19

[sairuh (rarely reading bugmail)]

it's great that bug 187508 has now been implemented, but one thing is still
"missing": with the system preference ON, tabbing navigation in a web page will
go to all html form controls, but links are still skipped.

Safari actually has pref UI for allowing this, under the Advanced Panel
(Universal Access). I'll verify this one; filed bug 277706 to get a pref for
allowing tabbing navigation to web page links.

Comment 20

[Asaf Romano (gone)]

(In reply to comment #19)
> it's great that bug 187508 has now been implemented, but one thing is still
> "missing": with the system preference ON, tabbing navigation in a web page will
> go to all html form controls, but links are still skipped.

as i noted in that bug, please double check you haven't changed the tabfocus
pref (in other word, try a new profile ;) )

Comment 21

[sairuh (rarely reading bugmail)]

(In reply to comment #20)
> as i noted in that bug, please double check you haven't changed the tabfocus
> pref (in other word, try a new profile ;) )

yup, did that as well --same results. :)