182026 - java app fails with jre 1.4.0 / 1.4.1 but ok with jre 1.3.1

Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME

(Core Graveyard :: Java: OJI, defect)

Description

[steve bowden]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021114
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021114

co-operative bank internet banking application fails with Sun's jre 1.4.1 or
1.4.0  WORKS OK with jre 1.3.1.
Error message is javax.net.ssl.SSLException: SSL V2.0 servers are not supported



Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1.run the above url which loads new window, loads java and application
2.
3.

Actual Results:  
java console shows javax.net.ssl.SSLException: SSL V2.0 servers are not supported

Expected Results:  
initialise applet with no errors as in jre 1.3.1

Comment 1

[Frederic Bezies]

Confirming bug - 5 hours old cvs based build - JRE 1.4.1_01 - WinXP-Sp1.

Comment 2

[WD]

Wouldn't this be an evang. issue?

Comment 3

[Matthias Versen [:Matti]]

very clear error message :
SSL V2.0 servers are not supported
(they might be suppoorted in JRE1.3)

-> invalid

Comment 4

[steve bowden]

don't think it's as simple as that see 

http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?thread=4257&forum=2&message=697848

and security preferences has radio buttons for SSL v2, V3 and TLS

Comment 5

[Olivier Cahagne]

*** Bug 182780 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 6

[Olivier Cahagne]

*** Bug 184486 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 7

[Olivier Cahagne]

Shall we move then to Tech Evangelism and ask site to remove move to SSLv3 ?
Then, let's also mark bug 100373 dupe of this one then...
Otherwise, is JRE 1.4.2 beta support this ? Someone from Sun ?

Comment 8

[Luke Ross]

*** Bug 191444 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 9

[Luke Ross]

I vote for a move to evangelism.

Comment 10

[steve bowden]

Don't see this as a browser problem per se, more of a Java issue as some people 
saying that they get this error with SSL v3 and 40 bit encryption (see link on 
earlier post).

So I don't see what use it will be on Tech Evangelism except maybe to bury this 
bug.

Maybe it's not specifically a browser issue but a Sun problem. Although there 
have been Java / Mozilla problems in the past, this seems to be JRE issue.

I think that the status should be changed from unconfirmed as it is real enough 
(or we wouldn't be getting dupes for ecample). I thnk that a data capture of 
the two different versions of Java would be interesting to a Java / SSL 
developer - anyone interested? 

Comment 11

[John Archdeacon]

I can't tell whether this is really a browser problem but my experience is that
both IE (5.x and 6) and Opera 7.1 handle the same pages without crashing or
causing CPU runaway.

Comment 12

[Luke Ross]

URL no longer valid? Co-op bank have ditched the Java in favour of an HTML service.

Comment 13

[WD]

-> WFM

Comment 14

[Dan]

This bug should be re-opened, currently the acumen system (co-op's html+js
business banking web app) does not support Gecko browsers, and their Java
fallback for "non-IE6 browsers" doesn't work for me in Firefox (FF1.0.4 WinXP
Pro SP2 JRE 1.5).

Acumen: http://www.co-operativebank.co.uk/cgi-bin/Launch_cashplus.cgi?banking
Java app: http://apps.co-operativebank.co.uk/cgi-bin/Launch_corporate.cgi?cust

To clarify, it appears there is currently no way for FF users to use the co-op
online business banking, bar using a different browser.

I have spoken to co-op tech support repeatedly and they have specified that they
are working on supporting gecko-based browsers but they do not have a time-scale
on when this will be available.

I recommend either re-opening this bug and changing the summary, platform and
adding evangelism keyword or creating a new bug. I would do this myself, but I
don't yet have privs to do so.