Open Bug 1919478 Opened 1 year ago Updated 5 months ago

Useless error message: Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.

Categories

(Core :: Networking, defect, P3)

Firefox 130
defect
Points:
3

Tracking

()

UNCONFIRMED

People

(Reporter: minfrin, Unassigned, NeedInfo)

References

(Blocks 1 open bug)

Details

(Whiteboard: [necko-triaged])

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/17.6 Safari/605.1.15

Steps to reproduce:

Made an attempt to access an IPv6 only DNS address.

Actual results:

Error appeared saying:

"Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.

We can’t connect to the server at dns.name.

If you entered the right address, you can:

Try again later
Check your network connection
Check that Firefox has permission to access the web (you might be connected but behind a firewall)"

Expected results:

The real error message needs to appear somewhere on this page, so when the end user who hasn't a clue asks someone who does have a clue, the problem can be identified.

Was the problem a DNS error? If so, what was the error? Was it connection refused? Connection timed out? Permission denied? What IP address were you trying to get to?

In the absence of a specific, concrete error message, people helping the end user don't have a hope.

The Bugbug bot thinks this bug should belong to the 'Core::Networking' component, and is moving the bug to that component. Please correct in case you think the bot is wrong.

Component: Untriaged → Networking
Product: Firefox → Core

Thanks for raising this.
We are tracking network error logging issue through Bug 1872711.
We will add this bug to the list.

Blocks: 872711
Whiteboard: [necko-triaged]
Blocks: necko-error
No longer blocks: 872711
Severity: -- → S3
Points: --- → 3
Rank: 7
Priority: -- → P3

Given no developer seems to know this is a problem, I’m suggesting this might be an issue that primarily affects slow connections. I have a slow connection myself and Firefox often have trouble with sites that should be perfectly resolvable and reachable (such as my city’s public library, or pages that belong to a local TV station). A second try always resolves the problem.

This happens even with my other instance of Firefox which has been configured to use a local proxy. Given that the proxy will show its own timeout error message if there’s a true timeout, this means Firefox is actually bypassing the configured proxy. By observation, it looks like Firefox always tries to DNS resolve the site’s domain on its own (even if a proxy is used) and time out after a hard-coded timeout that only makes sense for fast connections.

(In reply to Ambrose Li from comment #3)

Given no developer seems to know this is a problem, I’m suggesting this might be an issue that primarily affects slow connections. I have a slow connection myself and Firefox often have trouble with sites that should be perfectly resolvable and reachable (such as my city’s public library, or pages that belong to a local TV station). A second try always resolves the problem.

This happens even with my other instance of Firefox which has been configured to use a local proxy. Given that the proxy will show its own timeout error message if there’s a true timeout, this means Firefox is actually bypassing the configured proxy. By observation, it looks like Firefox always tries to DNS resolve the site’s domain on its own (even if a proxy is used) and time out after a hard-coded timeout that only makes sense for fast connections.

Hi,
Could you capture an HTTP log for the issue you saw? Please open a new bug and attach the log there.
Thanks.

Flags: needinfo?(ambrose.li)
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