Closed
Bug 230023
Opened 21 years ago
Closed 5 months ago
Keyboard shortcut for show/hide sidebar (f9) is caught by expose under Panther
Categories
(Core :: DOM: UI Events & Focus Handling, defect)
Tracking
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RESOLVED
WORKSFORME
People
(Reporter: bugzilla, Unassigned)
References
(Blocks 1 open bug)
Details
(Keywords: helpwanted)
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031208 Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031208 Jaguar has the shortcut f9 reserved for exposé, so that it is not sent to mozilla. There is need for a different shortcut on the mac now. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Press F9 2. 3. Actual Results: Exposé shows all windows Expected Results: Hide/View Sidebar There is a workaround: You can assign a different key to Exposé, but this is not the way how it should work.
Comment 1•21 years ago
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Expose is introduced in MacOS X 10.3 ("Panther"). Slight alteration to summary to reduce chance of dupes being reported. Confirming following search for obvious dupes.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
Summary: Keyboard shortcut for show/hide sidebar (f9) is caught by the ws → Keyboard shortcut for show/hide sidebar (f9) is caught by expose under Panther
Comment 2•20 years ago
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The Mac is why we try not to use function keys as accelerators -- unfortunately this one was chosen before we even had that policy. I realize this isn't relevant to Seamonkey but for a moment let's discuss how Firefox deals with this: On Firefox only one sidebar item is ever open at a time. For example, Ctrl+H will toggle history open/closed and Ctrl+B will toggle bookmarks open/closed. If you open a sidebar item when another was opened, it replaces the first. There's also View -> Sidebar -> [pick item] This gets around several problems: 1. Having 2 different entry points for each feature -- a sidebar and a new window for both history and bookmarks 2. The need for a separate accelerator to toggle the sidebar (currently F9( 3. The need for a keystroke to switch sidebar tabs (currently Alt+PageUp/Alt+PageDown) 4. The entire UI for sidebar customization (actually the sidebar itself) has accessibility issues (see bug 89148) It's really kind of a pain to fix all these accessibility issues for sidebar when it's been shown that the sidebar can have a better design from the start. To be fair, if you install a custom sidebar item in Firefox you have to hit Ctrl+B or Ctrl+H twice to toggle it closed. The bug to have a proper keyboard shortcut for closing the sidebar in Firefox is bug 243752.
Blocks: 89148
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Comment 3•20 years ago
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Please don't port the Firefox sidebar to seamonkey. It's a pain in the ass to have two different sidebar entry points (View & Bookmarks) and not to be able to cycle through the sidebar tabs. Sure, you don't have "the need for a keystroke to switch sidebar tabs", but at the same time, you are not able to do it with a keystroke and always need the mouse for change sidebar content.
Comment 4•20 years ago
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I just thought it was interesting to bring up for the discussion ... maybe it wasn't. However, why do you say that the mouse has to be used to change sidebar content?
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Comment 5•20 years ago
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> I just thought it was interesting to bring up for the discussion ... maybe it wasn't. Sorry, didn't want to offend you. But I think the FF sidebar handling is not very well elaborated, esp. when it comes to not only using bookmarks and history sidebar. > However, why do you say that the mouse has to be used to change sidebar content? Having two or more sidebars besides bookmarks and history, I have no keyboard access to switch between the sidebars.
Comment 6•20 years ago
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We could change the shortcut for macs only.
Comment 7•20 years ago
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(In reply to comment #6) > We could change the shortcut for macs only. That would be fine. A new keystroke should be checked against this list to make sure there are no conflicts: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/ui/accessibility/mozkeylist.html
Keywords: helpwanted
Comment 8•20 years ago
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The new F9 keystroke for Mozilla Mail needs changing too.
Updated•15 years ago
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QA Contact: keyboard.navigation
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Updated•6 years ago
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Component: Keyboard: Navigation → User events and focus handling
Updated•2 years ago
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Severity: normal → S3
Comment 10•5 months ago
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F9 is no longer used to toggle the sidebar
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 5 months ago
Resolution: --- → WORKSFORME
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