Closed Bug 231271 Opened 20 years ago Closed 13 years ago
Search plugins bundled with Mozilla Installer are mainly for technical users
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 Bundled (or pre-installed) search plugins supplied with the Mozilla installer are of more use to Mozilla developers rather than the average end-user. The Mycroft Project keeps details of the most popular search plugins so bundling these would be better. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3.
sorry 1. there's already a bug for this 2. half the search plugins i see aren't developer specific 3. your bug is useless; a useful bug would suggest plugins to package i personally collected 400 or so search plugins, while mycroft might not have that many, i'm sure it has more than anyone here wants to sift through. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 213822 ***
Status: UNCONFIRMED → RESOLVED
Closed: 20 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
Hi Timeless, My entry here seems to have irritated you but to answer your points... True, the bug existed but is marked as resolved. Yet the only extra plugin added for rv:1.6 was AskJeeves and that was incorrectly written (see Bug 231217). If half of the Mozilla End Users are also Mozilla Developers then you are right and the current mix of bundled plugins can't be faulted. I don't think the bug is useless. Anything which improves the usefulness of the product will help it succeed in the marketplace. I didn't suggest any plugins to package because the suggestion was to find out what the most popular ones from the people who know. You need to check Mycoft's page where's there's close to 800 plugins (I know because I've written a good number of them). As you say, nobody would want to sift through them but there isn't any need to, the information is already available. I realise that a tremendous effort goes into producing Mozilla and it's often a thankless task, so perhaps my suggestion seems trivial. However, it should be an easy thing to fix and I think the bug should be re-opened.
Status: RESOLVED → UNCONFIRMED
Resolution: DUPLICATE → ---
I agree the pre-installed search-plugins should be focused more on what seach-plugins users want and Mycroft's top ten is a good indicator of that. The current top ten is: 1. dictionary 2. google 3. yahoo 4. imdb 5. astalavista 6. ebay 7. amazon 8. altavista 9. alltheweb 10. leo
Re: comment #3: Most of these search engines are available for different languages/countries, which make them very well suitable for localizations. Leo (German-English dictionary) would rather be a "replacement" for dictionary.com in the german localization. But anyways, the plugins we are talking about are going to be added to the default English locale, or am I wrong?
Yeah, I don't know what ships with other locales. I think the default English locale could include some of these popular search-plugins.
My suggested search plugins would be: Amazon and Ebay (shopping) Blogdex and Daypop (blogs) Dictionary.com (reference) IMDB (movies) Google (search engine) Mozilla, Mozillazine and Bugzilla (mozilla)
I'm morphing this bug slightly. For 1.7 (if I don't run into any problems) I plan to remove LXR, Bugzilla, and mozilla.org and to add yahoo and google groups.
Just in case you were wondering what is popular today. Last weeks Mycroft Statistics: Top 10 for Website 1. dictionary.com . 2. google . 3. yahoo . 4. imdb . 5. ebay . 6. astalavista +1 7. wikipedia -1 8. amazon . 9. altavista . N. leo N
is there a good reason to keep open a bug that has but 3 votes, no comments, no activity, and no dupes in 3 years?
OS: Windows 2000 → All
QA Contact: search
Hardware: PC → All
The currently shipping search plugins in SeaMonkey 2.1b2 are: Creative Commons Google Wikipedia Yahoo. None of these are specifically for "technical users". Closing as WORKSFORME. For any changes to the current list please file a NEW bug with clear specifics as well as the rational for adding or removing search engines.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 20 years ago → 13 years ago
Resolution: --- → WORKSFORME
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