251842 - Use caching info from feed (ttl, skiphours, skipdays, updateBase, updateFrequency) for live bookmark expiration

Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX

(Firefox :: Bookmarks & History, enhancement, P5)

Description

[Vladimir Vukicevic [:vlad] [:vladv] (needinfo me, slow to respond)]

Livemarks currently don't use the existing scheduling and notification
mechanism; we should use it, and set the default schedule based on the TTL of
the feed.

Comment 1

[Ryan Polk (Quark)]

*** Bug 251127 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 2

[gootch2]

This is a very important bug... The tags such as "ttl", "skipDays" and
"skipHours" give webmasters much more flexibility (and saves a TON of bandwidth
if you are running a large site that provides free RSS feeds)

Please make this a priority for the next version.  It really is important.  It's
like having a robot crawling the web without looking at robots.txt... a bit
unethical!

Comment 3

[Giles Robertson]

Also updateBase and updateFrequency are properties that should, at some point in
the distant future, be obeyed.

(folding bug 288274 into this one)

Comment 4

[Jo Hermans]

*** Bug 288274 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 5

[Mike Connor [:mconnor]]

sorry for bugspam, long-overdue mass reassign of ancient QA contact bugs, filter on "beltznerLovesGoats" to get rid of this mass change

Comment 6

[Phil Ringnalda (:philor)]

Morphing to just the in-content caching elements, since what this was originally filed about, using the (long-disabled in Firefox) bookmarks scheduled checking code, isn't possible since it's gone now.

And just in case anyone looking for a solution here doesn't already know: Firefox does honor HTTP caching headers (the same Cache-Control/Expires headers you use for your HTML and images and whatnot) for live bookmarks, a well-specified system which actually works, unlike all the reinventions in feed formats, all of which have serious or fatal flaws.

Comment 7

[Dietrich Ayala (:dietrich)]

decreasing priority, and changing to "enhancement" per comment 6: the status quo has a reasonable approach.

Comment 8

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

Bug 451915 - move Firefox/Places bugs to Firefox/Bookmarks and History. Remove all bugspam from this move by filtering for the string "places-to-b-and-h".

In Thunderbird 3.0b, you do that as follows:
Tools | Message Filters
Make sure the correct account is selected. Click "New"
Conditions: Body   contains   places-to-b-and-h
Change the action to "Delete Message".
Select "Manually Run" from the dropdown at the top.
Click OK.

Select the filter in the list, make sure "Inbox" is selected at the bottom, and click "Run Now". This should delete all the bugspam. You can then delete the filter.

Gerv

Comment 9

[Marco Bonardo [:mak] (Away Apr 25 - May 5)]

just as a side note, I made some experiment with ttl, but results are completely useless, most feed don't define it, those who do have it set to like 1 minute, that is not really what we want.

Comment 10

[Marco Bonardo [:mak] (Away Apr 25 - May 5)]

Since we don't plan to be a full-featured rss reader, we are not supposed to spend time implementing all of rss properties.