Closed Bug 25369 (fishcam) Opened 25 years ago Closed 18 years ago

Fishcam

Categories

(Core :: DOM: UI Events & Focus Handling, defect, P3)

Product:
Core
Component:
DOM: UI Events & Focus Handling
Type:
defect

Tracking

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Status:
RESOLVED FIXED
Milestone:
Future

People

(Reporter: clayton, Unassigned)

References

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URL
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Details

(Whiteboard: patch is in, not working on win32 (69954))

Attachments

(6 obsolete files) 

Seamonkey doesn't bring up Fishcam on [control-alt-f] for Windows.
I don't know, Clayton, I'd have to say this would be a key accelerator problem.  
This would have to be an issue for saari, keyboard command interpreter man.
Assignee: joki → saari
CC'ing interested parties.
XPApps level feature, I'm just a fish cam key enabler :-)
Assignee: saari → don
Is 'open some predesignated URL' really an XPApps thing?  Doesn't seem like it's
too complicated...

Point me in the right direction, and I'll fix this.
Swell.  M20.
Target Milestone: M20
I heard Chris say the words 'key bindings', so I'm reassigning this to him.
Assignee: don → mcafee
*** Bug 29501 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Move to M21 target milestone.
Target Milestone: M20 → M21
kicking this out to nobody@mozilla.org.
Assignee: mcafee → nobody
Marking helpwanted since I think that's what was meant.
Keywords: helpwanted
Fishcam is a Netscape-specific thing. So IMO this bug should be Netscape only, in 
which case `nobody@mozilla.org' and `helpwanted' are hardly appropriate.

If Mozilla can have an equivalent cam (a terrarium full of Geckos, anyone?) then 
fine, but that's a separate RFE.
OS: other → All
Hardware: PC → All
aargh...I just knew somebody was going to point that out, only I was hoping 
nobody would raise a stink about it. Yes, the fishcam belongs to Netscape, but 
it's a piece of Web history, so why not put it in Mozilla? They're just fish, 
anyway. 

The throbbing `N' is a part of Web history, too. So what's your point? If you 
want Web history, you've got <about:mozilla>.

But I think Ctrl+Alt+L (or something) to go to <http://terrarium.mozilla.org/> 
and see a bunch of Lizards lying around would be cool.
_aargh_
Matthew, let's not debate this. After all, it's just an Easter egg. If it were a 
major piece of functionality then I'd agree with you. Go ahead and set up your 
terrarium, in the meantime, I'd like to see the fishcam key shortcut stay. I 
appreciate your commitment to eradicating all netscape references from mozilla, 
but this is overkill, in my opinion.

*sigh*

I agree with the Netscape guys on this one, this should be in Mozilla, unlike
setting http://home.netscape.com/ as the default homepage or bundling AIM with
the browser this fishcam shortcut isn't exactly going to make millions for the
AOL/Netscape empire. The only people who are likely to know about it are long
time Netscape users and if it wasn't for Netscape we'd not have mozilla.

Anyways what happened to the signcam where you used to be able to send messages
to the engineering pit?
The signcam isn't here anymore :(
Mass update:  changing qacontact to ckritzer@netscape.com
QA Contact: janc → ckritzer
Timeless offered to help fix this.
Assignee: nobody → timeless
Currently i can't get CAx to map (i'm looking into this)
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
Timeless, you're my hero. We can't ship without the fishcam easter egg, it just 
wouldn't be right.

Updating QA Contact.
QA Contact: ckritzer → lorca
Target Milestone: M21 → mozilla0.9.1
Attached patch proposed patch (obsolete) — — Splinter Review 

    
    

    
  
that should be accel, not control.
and do we not support fishcam in mail or other apps? i guess not.
Assignee: timeless → doronr
Status: ASSIGNED → NEW
Keywords: approval, 
          
            patch

    
    

    
  

      
      
      
      

        Attached patch
          
          
        new patch,accel (obsolete)
        — 
          — Splinter Review
      

    


  

    
    

    
  
fixed that, thanks for catching it.

any sr=?
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED

    
    

    
  
Like timeless said: would be cool to have in Editor and Messenger as well! :)

    
    

    
  
But what if you don't have Navigator installed?


    
    

    
  
There's no point having a keyboard shortcut for a web browser feature in a mail
client or HTML editor, lets keep it navigator only.

As for a review as a request been made on the reviews mailing list/newsgroup?
http://www.mozilla.org/hacking/reviewers.html


    
    

    
  
i'll bug some people on irc for the sr=, r= is from timeless. now, we need
funding for a gecko cam...

    
    

    
  
ccing alecf@netscape.com for a sr= per blake.
r=timeless

    
    

    
  
looks good! sr=alecf


    
    

    
  
checked in
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 24 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED

    
    

    
  
Reassigning QA Contact for all open and unverified bugs previously under Lorca's
care to Gerardo as per phone conversation this morning.
QA Contact: lorca → gerardok

    
    

    
  
Ctrl+Alt+F still doesn't work for me...

    
    

    
  
CTRL+ALT+F now works for me. Marking VERIFIED.
Status: RESOLVED → VERIFIED

    
    

    
  
I tried this on a trunk build using Win98 from 2 mins ago and it still didn't
work - reopening.
Status: VERIFIED → REOPENED
Resolution: FIXED → ---

    
    

    
  
works for me with today's CVS build on Linux.

    
    

    
  
Also doesn't work here.
Mozilla 2001020320 on Windows 2000 SP1 on PC.
BTW: I have slovenian keybord which uses Ctrl + Alt + F for character [.
Maybe that's the reason it doesn't work here. And I hope I will still be able 
to enter the [ character after this patch.

    
    

    
  
make sure your keyboard focus is not in the URL bar 
(it's a different bug that some accelerators don't work when focus is in the URL
bar)

    
    

    
  
I am sure my keyboard focus is not in URL bar.
If I'm in the text box like this one the char [ gets entered which is correct.
When i click somewhere in the page and press Ctrl + Alt + F nothing happens.
No fishcam.

    
    

    
  
This works for me on Linux even when the keyboard focus is on the location
bar or in a text input like this one. But then, this really seems to be
Windows-only now.

    
    

    
  
http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/xpfe/browser/resources/content/navigatorOverlay.xul#91

someone checked in the old patch, not the newer one. attching new diff to change
that, i assume we can keep the reviews/superreview from before.

    
    

    
  
oh, anyone wants to check this in? don't have cvs access yet

    
    

    
  
sr=alecf

    
    

    
  
actually, can anyone test if this even helps on win32? it's wierd enough that
"contrl,alt" fails to work.  I build on linux, and both work.  Any win32
builders want to test this?

    
    

    
  
0.9 moving spam. Anyone want to file a bug about "control,alt" failing on win32?

Target Milestone: mozilla0.9.1 → mozilla0.9

    
  
Depends on: 69954

    
    

    
  
It's probably better to use control, alt rather than accel, alt because although
Windows and Linux use ctrl as the accel key it is possible to change the accel
key and it's documented somewhere about how to set alt to accel in the prefs so
that people can get UNIX 4.x behaviour and if alt is accel then I can imagine
problems with this key combo.

Also BeOS apps use ALT as their accel key.


    
    

    
  
cc: aaronlev as he is handling keyboard stuff


    
    

    
  
blake checked in control-alt, and he was right to do so probably. bug 69954 has
been filed about it not workingon win32

    
    

    
  
Just so you know, there are a couple of reasons not to use Ctrl+Alt. One
important is that international keyboards often use those combos to enter
special characters.

See www.mozilla.org/projects/ui/accessibility/mozkeyintro.html

It might not matter in this case. The operating system will do the right thing
and we won't have the chance to bring up Fishcam. Can anyone say for sure at
this point?

    
    

    
  
aargh - this has been stalled and debated for way too long. it's just an Easter
egg! It doesn't have to work perfectly for everyone. Just check it in!

    
    

    
  
Huh.  WFM in 0.8 Mac build (Using control-option-f).

Cool!:)


    
    

    
  
-> future

this works on linux and macos, but not on win32.
Whiteboard: patch is in, not working on win32
Target Milestone: mozilla0.9 → Future

    
  
Whiteboard: patch is in, not working on win32 → patch is in, not working on win32 (69954)

    
    

    
  
QA contact updated
QA Contact: gerardok → madhur

    
    

    
  
->keyb nav
Component: Event Handling → Keyboard Navigation
QA Contact: madhur → sairuh

    
    

    
  
fwiw, ctrl+alt+F loads the fishcam *only* with the linux bits [trunk or branch].
ctrl+alt+F doesn't work on win32 or cmd+opt+F on mac [trunk or branch]. just
so's i gots a testing baseline. ;)  [using 2001.09.13-comm bits]

    
    

    
  
->me, I have a fix that will let us enjoy this ... a revised version.
Assignee: doronr → hwaara
Status: REOPENED → NEW
Keywords: helpwanted

    
    

    
  

      
      
      
      

        Attached file
          
        diff to cost hixie money (obsolete)
        — 
      

    


  
Patch that makes Mozilla go to libpr0n.com on Ctrl+Shift+F

        Attachment #23197 -
        Attachment is obsolete: true

        Attachment #23199 -
        Attachment is obsolete: true

        Attachment #24438 -
        Attachment is obsolete: true

    
    

    
  
Maybe we should make it go to MozillaQuestQuest.com instead ... depends on what 
people think is funniest. :-)

    
    

    
  
Try reading the description of this bug again, hwaara.

    
    

    
  
Comment on attachment 64713 [details]
diff to cost hixie money

libpr0n.com is privately owned and operated and the costs associated with
running the site should not be effected by Mozilla directly by this.

        Attachment #64713 -
        Flags: needs-work+

    
    

    
  
if you are willing to pay for hosting of the site, for say, the next 10 years, 
then perhaps it would be ok.

    
    

    
  
hwaara: if you do want to point it to a domain I own, feel free to pay me the
$50 a month hosting fee, in advance, for the 10 years that I expect the easter
egg will be around. That's $6000. Before you check it in. Thanks!

    
    

    
  
/me goes back to his cave
Assignee: hwaara → doronr

    
  

        Attachment #64713 -
        Attachment description: Proposed patch → diff to cost hixie money

    
  

        Attachment #64713 -
        Attachment is obsolete: true

        Attachment #64713 -
        Attachment is patch: false

    
    

    
  
can't this be marked fixed, since bug 69954 is for making it work on win32?

    
  
Alias: fishcam

    
    

    
  

      
      
      
      

        Attached patch
          
          
        adds fishcam (obsolete)
        — 
          — Splinter Review
      

    


  
for now about:fishcam is good enough. Mozilla needs some easter eggs. I'll try
working on making the keyboard shortcut work.

    
    

    
  
well the patch won't work due to:
 static const int kRedirTotal = 4; // sizeof(kRedirMap)/sizeof(*kRedirMap)
you'd need to change that...
However, I wonder why the sizeof approach from the comment is not used.

Also, I fail to see why about:fishcam is needed? Ctrl+Alt+F is easter egg enough.

    
    

    
  
about:fishcam is useless.  We could get sued by fishcam.com, the new emerging
startup for fish toys.

    
    

    
  
We could probably prove we own the copyright on "fishcam."

    
    

    
  
Is fishcam dead as whole Netscape? Last "live" pictures are from May and
background looks as empty room.

    
    

    
  
fishcam wasnt dead as of 31/07/03, but the tank might have been moved somewhere
else on AOL / Netscape Campus... See the top of
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/doron/archives/2003_07.html for more info and
pics, but yes it does look dead around the JS area :/ Come on AOL get the cam
back up we want to see the fishies :p

    
    

    
  
indeed
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 24 years ago → 21 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX

    
    

    
  
Since Fishcam is not run by IBM, I don't think an IBM employee has grounds to
mark this as wontfix.  It may very well be a wontfix, but that decision should
come from somewhere else.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: WONTFIX → ---

    
    

    
  
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Assignee: doronr → general
Status: REOPENED → NEW

    
    

    
  
This bug can't be wontfix. It needs to either be fixed (it's a valid keyboard 
navigation bug) or the relevant code needs to be removed altogether. But there's 
no reason to keep buggy code.

    
    

    
  
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Assignee: general → aaronlev5

    
    

    
  
this isn't about fixing the issue in mozilla with not catching the keystrokes
needed.  THere is another bug for that.

The fishcam is as far as I know dead.  So is there even a use to fixing this?

    
    

    
  
According to the bug's whiteboard, and the comments when it was reopened, and
the component, this _is_ about the key problems.

Like I said. If we're not fixing this to work, then we should remove the code
supporting it. Either way, resolving this bug should result in a checkin.

    
    

    
  
key problem is 69954 btw.

    
    

    
  

      
      
      
      

        Attached patch
          
          
        remove fishcam bindingds. RIP (obsolete)
        — 
          — Splinter Review
      

    


  

        Attachment #108335 -
        Attachment is obsolete: true

    
    

    
  
fishcam is back up. So this is just blocked by bug 69954 again. No need to back
anything out. (If anything _was_ backed out, it should be put back.)

    
  

        Attachment #132757 -
        Attachment is obsolete: true

    
    

    
  
This is just blocked by danm's bug: bug 69954.
Assignee: aaronleventhal → danm-moz

    
  
Assignee: danm.moz → nobody

    
    

    
  
Ctrl+Alt+F brings up the (dead) fishcam page for me on Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20061002 MultiZilla/1.8.3.0a SeaMonkey/1.5a

Given that this bug is about the keyboard shortcut, should it be marked FIXED/WFM?

    
    

    
  
(In reply to comment #86)
> Ctrl+Alt+F brings up the (dead) fishcam page for me on Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U;
> Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20061002 MultiZilla/1.8.3.0a
> SeaMonkey/1.5a
> 
> Given that this bug is about the keyboard shortcut, should it be marked
> FIXED/WFM?


Same here:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20061104 SeaMonkey/1.5a

ctrl+alt+f is http://www.netscape.com/fishcam/fishcam.htm (dead)

AOL now owns the fishtank and -cam, apparently, see http://journals.aol.com/fishcammv/aolmvfishcam/ . Personally, I think the bug should be morphed to get SeaMonkey its own fish/lizard cam.  Either that or marking this WFM and filing a new one. Seeing as an IBM employee wasn't allowed to change this bug, I, an unemployed student, will leave the honours to someone else as well ;-)

    
    

    
  
(In reply to comment #87)
> http://journals.aol.com/fishcammv/aolmvfishcam/ . Personally, I think the bug
> should be morphed to get SeaMonkey its own fish/lizard cam.  Either that or
> marking this WFM and filing a new one. 

See bug 344194 to update the URL and bug 290235 for a Mozilla.org version of fishcam

    
    

    
  
[Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061211 SeaMonkey/1.0.7] (release) (W2Ksp4)
[Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070123 SeaMonkey/1.1] (nightly) (W2Ksp4)
[Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9a2pre) Gecko/20070125 SeaMonkey/1.5a] (nightly) (W2Ksp4)

Confirming Ctrl+Alt+F [whether using C+A / A+C / Alt_Gr] is (now) working, as written in comment 86.
Marking R.Fixed.

(See the other bugs for the other issues.)
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 21 years ago → 18 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
Component: Keyboard: Navigation → User events and focus handling

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