304962 - right click on feedview / rss icon should add live bookmark to the selected feed

Status: RESOLVED INVALID

(Firefox Graveyard :: RSS Discovery and Preview, enhancement)

Description

[Jeff Schiller]

User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b4) Gecko/20050816 Firefox/1.0+
Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b4) Gecko/20050816 Firefox/1.0+

The "Subscribe to Live Bookmark" button that was in the bottom status bar is no
longer present.  Go to my blog (http://blog.codedread.com/) or any site that has
a RSS or Atom feed.  The RSS button is still in the address bar to see the RSS
pretty printing and you can still subscribe once you view the RSS, but the
status bar button is missing.

Also, the status bar has an item that just says "test" on it.  What is this item?

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
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Actual Results:  
No Feed button in the status bar

Expected Results:  
The Subscribe To Feed button should be present whenever a web page has a LINK
REL for a feed.

Comment 1

[Dave Townsend [:mossop]]

The status bar icon was moved to the address bar.

Comment 2

[Jeff Schiller]

I think this is a BAD idea.  I think the subscribe button was a great feature
for Firefox and people have gotten used to having the "subscribe" button down at
the bottom.  Now they have to actually look at the feed before subscribing and
it's not in the same location.

Why not have both?

Comment 3

[Jeff Schiller]

At the VERY least, I should be able to right-click on the address bar icon to
immediately subscribe, i should NOT have to go view the feed first.  I'm
reopening this bug to address being able to subscribe from the button in the
address bar directly.

Comment 4

[Jeff Schiller]

My justification is as follows:  I'm already at the page that contains the
content and I already know that it's content that i want to subscribe to.  I
should not be forced to view the RSS pretty printing and then click "Subscribe".
 Also, this navigates away to a different page, I can't even seem to open the
RSS feed into a separate tab.  Also, I no longer have the choice of which feed I
want to use.  Pages have multiple feeds sometimes (some feeds have teh entire
content while others only the summaries).  You are artificially limiting the
user choice by "dumbing this down".

In my opinion this was a bad design choice that can be remedied by:

a) middle-clicking the RSS button should open the RSS feed in a new tab
b) right-clicking the RSS button should present a context menu with teh
following choice:
  View - with a fly-out menu to look at whichever feed they want
  Subscribe (Add as Live Bookmark) - with a fly-out menu for each feed

Comment 5

[Dave Townsend [:mossop]]

Morphing to enhancement.

Jeff, you already can view different feeds from the same page, if there is more
than one a menu pops up when you click the icon.

Comment 6

[Jeff Schiller]

Dave, 

This doesn't appear to be working then.  See http://blog.codedread.com/ :

<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS 2.0"
href="http://blog.codedread.com/feed/" />
<link rel="alternate" type="text/xml" title="RSS .92"
href="http://blog.codedread.com/feed/rss/" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/atom+xml" title="Atom 0.3"
href="http://blog.codedread.com/feed/atom/" />

When you left-click the orange button I get the view feed page directly, no menu. 

Comment 7

[Mike Beltzner [:beltzner, not reading bugmail]]

Jeff, that's as-designed; when there are multiple feeds that are just the same
content in different formats, we pick one for the user instead of asking them to
choose.

re: comment 2, the button in the status bar was appreciated by those who could
find it. Putting it in the URL bar will only increase its visibility. As for
having to load the feed itself, this serves a few purposes, among them:
disambiguation & the preview of feed contents, a direct link between what a feed
provides and adding a Live Bookmark, better exposure to our feed reading
capablities and verification that the thing is there in the first place.

re: comment 3 and comment 4, you're right - the feedview icon should respond
accordingly to middle and ctrl/option click commands and load the feed in a new
tab. 

Comment 8

[Jeff Schiller]

Mike,

How do you know that it's the same content but it a different format, or is
Firefox just assuming?  What if I want to provide the full content in my Atom
feed and summaries in RSS?  Not that this is a wise choice, but I'm just curious...

Anyway, if middle- and right-click can be supported I can adapt to the new
button location...

Jeff

Comment 9

[Mike Beltzner [:beltzner, not reading bugmail]]

(In reply to comment #8)
> How do you know that it's the same content but it a different format, or is

I'm actually not sure what the specific algorithm is; it seems to be some
combination of the URI elemnts, looking for uniqueness in the file name and
extension. It should probably also observe the pathname, though. From looking at
my site (http://www.beltzner.ca/mike) I see that as soon as I had two files in
the same path with .xml as the extension, it stopped making assumptions, and
obviously a different filename made the assumptions stop.

> Anyway, if middle- and right-click can be supported I can adapt to the new
> button location...

Middle click and open-in-new-tab modifiers is bug 304458.
(Changing the summary to reflect the desire for right-click behaviour.)

Comment 10

[Mike Beltzner [:beltzner, not reading bugmail]]

Feedview was backed out and standard Live Bookmark subscription behaviour has
been restored. Marking INVALID.

Comment 11

[Tanner M. Young [:tmyoung]]

Resetting QA Contact to default.