349062 - Change mozilla.support.general listing to mozilla.support.other on developer-forums.html

Status: VERIFIED FIXED

(www.mozilla.org :: General, defect)

Description

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

mozilla.support.other has not been created as a replacement for mozilla.support.general (see bug 328381 ). http://www.mozilla.org/community/developer-forums.html needs to be updated, to reflect that.

Comment 1

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

Attachment: the fix

Comment 2

[Samuel Sidler (old account; do not CC)]

Comment on attachment 234288 [details] [diff] [review]
the fix

r=me based on bug 328381.

Comment 3

[Samuel Sidler (old account; do not CC)]

Chris, do you have checkin rights or do you need someone to check this in for you?

Comment 4

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

I don't have a CVS account; but I'm not sure if this should wait until bug 328381 is marked as fixed.

Comment 5

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

According to Dave Miller, all that's left in fixing bug 328381, has to do with closing the old list/newsgroup; so I think this should be checked in now. It makes no sense to direct people to a list, which is going to close in one week.

CCing Gerv.

Comment 6

[Reed Loden [:reed]]

Checking in mozilla-org/html/community/developer-forums.html;
/cvsroot/mozilla-org/html/community/developer-forums.html,v  <--  developer-forums.html
new revision: 1.22; previous revision: 1.21
done

Please verify all changes once commit reaches staging/production.

Comment 7

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

v

Comment 8

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

Re-opening.
I don't really have a good understanding of how developer-forums.html is generated; and from what I can tell, it's causing unnecessary problems. Somehow, mozilla.support.general is back, and mozilla.support.other is now gone.

Comment 9

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

developer-forums.html is regenerated from raw-ng-list.txt by gen-ng-info, both files being in that directory of the webtree. You need to run gen-ng-info by hand, then copy and paste the output into developer-forums.html. (Automating this step didn't provide enough bang for buck.) 

If you hack developer-forums.html by hand, you'll end up overwriting previous changes when it does finally get regenerated.

Gerv

Comment 10

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

Attachment: raw-ng-list.txt.diff

Gerv, why is the page regenerated from a text file, rather than editing it, like most other www.mozilla.org web pages?

Comment 11

[Samuel Sidler (old account; do not CC)]

Comment on attachment 265033 [details] [diff] [review]
raw-ng-list.txt.diff

r=me

But yeah, it seems weird that we're regenerating this instead of just editing it like we do other files.

Comment 12

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

Checking in mozilla-org/html/community/raw-ng-list.txt;
/www/mozilla-org/html/community/raw-ng-list.txt,v  <--  raw-ng-list.txt
new revision: 1.6; previous revision: 1.5
done

I don't know how to run gen-ng-list. Reed did that for me in bug 366925.

Comment 13

[Reed Loden [:reed]]

Checking in developer-forums.html;
/www/mozilla-org/html/community/developer-forums.html,v  <--  developer-forums.html
new revision: 1.26; previous revision: 1.25
done

Comment 14

[Chris Ilias [:cilias]]

v
Thanks Reed.

Comment 15

[Gervase Markham [:gerv]]

It's generated because writing the script was faster than copying, pasting and editing the same block of HTML 60 or more times when we initially constructed the page. And later, to add e.g. Google Groups links, you edit one copy of the template and rerun the script, rather than fixing it in 60 different places.

Even now, if you want to add a group, you just add it to the list and run the script - rather than copying, editing and pasting, and 3 weeks later realising you forgot to update one of the links so the Archive link still points to the archive of the group you originally copied.

More automation == less error. As any build system team member will tell you.

And, before you object that people don't know, it does say at the top in big commented letters "Auto-generated from...".

> I don't know how to run gen-ng-list.

Did you try running it with no parameters to get the help message? :-)

Gerv