Closed Bug 352169 Opened 19 years ago Closed 1 year ago

[RSS/Atom] Camino only shows one feed with a given name.

Categories

(Camino Graveyard :: General, defect)

Product:
Camino Graveyard
Component:
General
Platform:
PowerPC
macOS
Type:
defect
Priority:
Not set
Severity:
normal

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Status:
RESOLVED INCOMPLETE

People

(Reporter: moz, Assigned: nick.kreeger)

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Details

When a page has multiple feeds with the same name but different formats, Camino only allows chosing one of them. A good example is the O'Reilly Mac Dev Center (in the URL field). I think that if more than one feed has the same name (but they differ in format) we should be appending (e.g.) "(Atom)", etc. to the menu item titles. Not a ginormous issue since the article content should be the same, but some people like choices. ;)
That was discussed, and was by design. No more than a very small fraction of users understand the idea of multiple RSS formats, much less care. I don't see that there's an advantage that's worth all the confusion this would cause for the majority of users.
Does it always select the same one? (I.e., do we "prefer" one format over the other, or is it simply the one listed first on the page?) cl
No preference; AFAIK it will be the first.
Some sites where you can access (nicely) the different feeds: http://emps.l-c-n.com/ (my own) http://www.maxdesign.com.au/2006/09/13/some-links-96/ The whole thing is handled correctly according to the way the title attribute on the <link> tag works in HTML 401. It is the same mechanism as for linked stylesheets (something that most people completely misunderstand). The two sites above use different titles, one for each feed. The macdev center page in the url field above uses the *same* title for the 3 feeds. Hence they are treated as one and the same group. Camino can only recognise/use one of them. If anything, it is a bug in Firefox. BonEcho only handles one of them (the first). I can understand that it can cause (serious) confusion for the average user. Consensus among web developers is gearing towards the use of one format only, and stick with it...
Since Firefox no longer does this, and per comment 4, there's nothing really wrong with our present behaviour, do we want to just WONTFIX this and call it good? Site designers ought to know better than to name different feeds the same thing, anyway.
Latest Minefield builds now detect 2 feeds on http://www.macdevcenter.com/: the Atom one, and the second RSS feed (rss2.0). FX 2.0.0.4 still only detects one. Idem for the 2 samples linked in comment 4. The What-WG (HTML5) has slightly redefined/clarified how the <link> as applied to feeds should be handled. From the mailing list: http://listserver.dreamhost.com/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2006-November/008054.html has (had ?) an explanation, but that part of the archives is missing at the moment. In very short,a conformant UA should detect the different links based on the <type> attribute (Atom, RSS,...) (I'm trying to find the bug that Lachlan Hunt had filed on the subject.)
On the What-WG blog, there is an article summarising the handling of feeds http://blog.whatwg.org/feed-autodiscovery related: bug 362156, bug 362329
As an alternate, we can check if an entry exists with the title name and append the some identifying string to the title in the UI...
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 1 year ago
Resolution: --- → INCOMPLETE
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