Closed Bug 359740 Opened 18 years ago Closed 16 years ago

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(addons.mozilla.org Graveyard :: Public Pages, defect)

defect
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normal

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RESOLVED WONTFIX

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(Reporter: unghost, Assigned: shaver)

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Right now https://ru.add-ons.mozilla.com/ru/firefox/2.0/search-engines/ redirects to https://addons.mozilla.org/search-engines.php. I'd like to change this redirect because on https://addons.mozilla.org/search-engines.php listed only search engines, relevant for american users and absolutely not relevant for russian users.

I know that with Remora it would be possible to put localized search engines on AMO, however AFAIK Remora will be up in December in best case, that's why I'm asking for changing redirect.

Given this, I'd like to redirect https://ru.add-ons.mozilla.com/ru/firefox/2.0/search-engines/ to http://www.mozilla-russia.org/searchengines/ That's our community page with big collection of search engines relevant for Russian users.
I don't see this as a problem in the short-term (Shaver would be the best person to give confirmation though) however it's not an AMO bug - those redirects are handled elsewhere.

-> mozilla.org
Assignee: nobody → server-ops
Component: Search Plugins → Server Operations
OS: Linux → All
Product: addons.mozilla.org → mozilla.org
QA Contact: search-plugins → justin
Hardware: PC → All
Version: unspecified → other
Shaver what do you think?
Assignee: server-ops → shaver
Alexander: can you tell me how the engines listed on that page are chosen, what the different categories are, and what the text translates to?  Thanks.
(In reply to comment #3)
> Alexander: can you tell me how the engines listed on that page are chosen,
These are search engines, that have russian interface (usually they are in .ru TLD) and popular among russian-speaking users. Usually owners of these search engines send to us these search plugins by e-mail and we put them in appropriate category.
We are not accepting engines that we consider illegal, like crack/warez search engines and so on...
> what the different categories are,
From top (my comments in brackets):
1) Yandex (these are search engines of Yandex company, they have a lot of them. Yandex.ru is most popular search engine in Russia)
2) Search systems (general purpose search system like Yandex, Google, Yahoo...)
3) Dictionaries. Encyclopaedias (Translation search engines and sites like Wikipedia)
4) Music. Video. (Music and Video related search engines)
5) Soft (Soft related search engines (No warez search engines listed))
6) Goods and Prices (Search for Goods and Prices)
7) News (News-search engines)
8) Libraries (Search for books)
9) Games (Search on gamer's sites)
10) Another (All the rest, that's not fitted in abovementioned categories)

> and what the text translates to?  Thanks.
If you mean text on top, that's just short description "What is search engines and how they are used". There is rough translation:
Search information in Web is everyday task. Mozilla Firefox developers made this task simpler, with special search bar, where you can put search queries. By default search will be made with Google search engine. You can choose another search engine, if you click your mouse on triangle in left part of search bar. Drow-down list of search servers is list of search engines, that were installed on your system.
Text in right column is:
1) Link to our wiki, describing how to install search engines with short description.
2) Link to http://mycroft.mozdev.org/ with short description.
3) Link to our wiki, describing how to make search engines with short description.



  

While you (Alexander) are looking at that page can I suggest/request a tidy of the Javascript - the errorMsg() function is as far as I can tell no better than a simple alert() and you reference (but don't use) http://mycroft.mozdev.org/nowrapper/submit-install.php. I'd be grateful if you would either use http://mycroft.mozdev.org/external.php/ as per http://mycroft.mozdev.org/findmycroft.html (partially out of date though it is) or just delete that part of the code.

Also, while people are free to use the search plugins from Mycroft, I do appreciate an acknowledgement or an email.
(In reply to comment #5)
> While you (Alexander) are looking at that page can I suggest/request a tidy of
> the Javascript - the errorMsg() function is as far as I can tell no better than
> a simple alert() and you reference (but don't use)
> http://mycroft.mozdev.org/nowrapper/submit-install.php. I'd be grateful if you
> would either use http://mycroft.mozdev.org/external.php/ as per
> http://mycroft.mozdev.org/findmycroft.html (partially out of date though it is)
> or just delete that part of the code.
> 
> Also, while people are free to use the search plugins from Mycroft, I do
> appreciate an acknowledgement or an email.
> 

Thanks for your remarks, Charles
I have made all necessary changes in our page.
What is going on with this? 
Looks like no activity for the last couple of weeks. Please reopen this if we are going to do something.

Thanks.
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 18 years ago
Resolution: --- → INVALID
Reopening (it's assigned to me, I'll get to it when I get to it, but it's definitely not INVALID).  I'll move it to the AMO product as well, since the decision ball is in our court.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Component: Server Operations → Public Pages
Product: mozilla.org → addons.mozilla.org
Resolution: INVALID → ---
Version: other → 2.0
QA Contact: justin → web-ui
Is this still an issue?
(In reply to comment #10)
> Is this still an issue?
> 
As AMO localizer, I still see no way to add/change/remove search engines on AMO, looks like that search engines set is hardcoded and same for all locales (btw, is there any bug on this?).
So yes, this is still an issue.   
I don't think we should change the redirect, but solve a bug to have a localizable list of search engines on AMO. No idea if that bug is filed.
(In reply to comment #12)
> I don't think we should change the redirect, but solve a bug to have a
> localizable list of search engines on AMO. No idea if that bug is filed.
> 

We sort of have bug 375052 but it seems more in the vein of localizing what is there, not choosing what should be there.  I've added the question of how we want to support this to the AMO meeting agenda for next week: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Update:Remora_Meeting_Notepad#December_19th

Should have more information after that.
I've filed bug 409080 to create a search engine manager on AMO that let's localizers choose what search engines appear on the page for their locale.
Depends on: 409080
Search engines are treated like normal add-ons now which means all fields are localizable and searchable.  Anyone is welcome to upload search engines, the policy is documented at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Update:Editors/ReviewingGuide#Reviewing_Search_Engine_Plugins

There isn't a way to specify several different locales for the same search engine (e.g. wikipedia-ru vs. wikipedia-fr) but I think that is a different bug.

Shaver, forgive my impertinence but I'm wontfix'ing this.  Feel free to reopen if necessary.
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 18 years ago16 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
Product: addons.mozilla.org → addons.mozilla.org Graveyard
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