Last Comment Bug 381766 - Please create mozilla.community.mozpad
: Please create mozilla.community.mozpad
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
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Product: mozilla.org
Classification: Other
Component: Discussion Forums (show other bugs)
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Assigned To: Dave Miller [:justdave] (justdave@bugzilla.org)
: Dave Miller [:justdave] (justdave@bugzilla.org)
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Reported: 2007-05-23 12:51 PDT by Benjamin Smedberg [:bsmedberg]
Modified: 2007-06-07 13:06 PDT (History)
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Description Benjamin Smedberg [:bsmedberg] 2007-05-23 12:51:50 PDT
 
Comment 1 Benjamin Smedberg [:bsmedberg] 2007-05-23 12:54:34 PDT
Argh... please create mozilla.dev.mozpad list/newsgroup/googlegroup. This is one of the outcomes from the new mozpad community meeting today.

Newsgroup summary, if there is an applicable place to put such information: Discussions of the Mozilla Platform Application Developers Community

We would like to have the mailing list as soon as practical, even if the newsgroup/googlegroup take time with giganews/google.
Comment 2 Gervase Markham [:gerv] 2007-05-24 03:28:37 PDT
Isn't mozilla.dev.platform tailor-made for discussions about the Mozilla platform?

What is the relationship between mozpad and mozilla.org? Is it a Mozilla project thing, or an independent entity (like MozDev)? If the latter, is it right that we should be hosting its mailing lists?

If it's for the organisation of the group itself rather than platform development, I'm not sure that mozilla.dev.* is the right hierarchy anyway. mozilla.community.mozpad?

And while those in the know may know what "mozpad" means, it's not very transparent as a newsgroup name. mozilla.community.platform?

Gerv
Comment 3 Matthew Gertner 2007-05-24 04:20:57 PDT
Mozpad is basically a talking shop to gather goals and requirements from developers using the platform for subsequent communication to Mozilla using the normal channels (including newsgroups, wiki, Bugzilla, etc.). The group wanted the name "mozpad" to be in the newsgroup name. John Lilly kindly offered to let us host it in the mozilla.dev.* hierarchy.
Comment 4 Benjamin Smedberg [:bsmedberg] 2007-05-24 05:53:40 PDT
Gerv, we all agreed that the discussions for the mozpad group would be unwelcome noise to most of the current readership of mozilla.dev.platform. Mozpad is mostly about creating a community around the rich-client platform, not about the specific technologies (e.g. specific technology issues would still be brought up in mozilla.dev.platform or mozilla.dev.mdc or wherever).
Comment 5 Gervase Markham [:gerv] 2007-05-24 06:06:45 PDT
Ben: I agree. Once Matthew clarified that the new group was for organising mozpad and not developing the platform, it became clear that mozilla.dev.platform was inappropriate.

But the two questions remain:

- Is the relationship between mozpad and mozilla.org such that we should be hosting this discussion?

- If so, is mozilla.dev.* the correct place for it?

My current thoughts are: "maybe not; more information required", and "no, mozilla.community.mozpad would be better". I have emailed John Lilly to clarify.

Gerv
Comment 6 John Lilly 2007-05-24 08:39:35 PDT
hey gerv -- i think this is very closely related to what we're doing -- mozpad, among other things, is effectively a user group for XUL & other moz tech. i think it's appropriate for us to host, and something like mozilla.community.mozpad would be just fine for everyone, i think.
Comment 7 Gervase Markham [:gerv] 2007-05-24 08:42:44 PDT
OK. mozilla.community.mozpad it is :-) Assuming bs or matthew don't object to the name, Dave, could you do the honours?

Gerv
Comment 8 Matthew Gertner 2007-05-24 09:03:19 PDT
(In reply to comment #7)
> OK. mozilla.community.mozpad it is :-) Assuming bs or matthew don't object to
> the name, Dave, could you do the honours?

I strongly object! Actually I don't. :-) The name is fine.
Comment 9 Dave Miller [:justdave] (justdave@bugzilla.org) 2007-06-05 15:53:28 PDT
This (and several other requests) will be getting submitted later tonight.
Comment 10 Dave Miller [:justdave] (justdave@bugzilla.org) 2007-06-05 23:01:08 PDT
Mailing list has been created.  Moderator details have been mailed to bsmedberg.  The list is currently hidden from the listinfo page, it will be made visible as soon as the newsgroup appears on news.mozilla.org.

new group request has been sent to Giganews and Google.
Comment 11 Dave Miller [:justdave] (justdave@bugzilla.org) 2007-06-06 17:49:46 PDT
Wow, Google's first this time. :)

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done.  Our admin also noted that this list:

http://www.mozilla.org/community/newsgroups.txt

Seems out of date, or at least doesn't match our list at all.

It may be a couple hours before the groups are on the website.
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Comment 12 Dave Miller [:justdave] (justdave@bugzilla.org) 2007-06-07 13:06:36 PDT
From Giganews:

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These have been added to our servers, they should start appearing over the next hour.
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The groups have indeed appeared on the server.  The list information page link has been unhidden from https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo

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