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Bug 421084
Opened 18 years ago
Closed 18 years ago
Investigate help changes needed for new helper app pane
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(SeaMonkey :: Help Documentation, defect)
SeaMonkey
Help Documentation
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(Not tracked)
RESOLVED
FIXED
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(Reporter: kairo, Assigned: kairo)
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(1 file, 2 obsolete files)
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11.41 KB,
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iannbugzilla
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review+
stefanh
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review+
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The new helper app pane landed by bug 417590 is substantially different from the old one, so we need to make sure that help is correct for the new pane.
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Comment 1•18 years ago
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This patch basically takes the FF3 section for SUMO, and brings it into a nice form that fits our help. I'm open to suggestions, but I'd like both Ian and Stefan to look into this so the result will really fit our help.
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Updated•18 years ago
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Attachment #308251 -
Flags: review?(stefanh)
Comment on attachment 308251 [details] [diff] [review]
merge Firefox 3 support doc to our help
>+ <li><strong>Choose an application</strong>: To choose a local or web
>+ application to handle a type, select the application from the menu. If you
>+ want a local application that is not in the menu to handle the type, select
>+ <strong>Choose Application…</strong> from the menu and point
>+ &brandShortName; to its location.</li>
I do not see "Choose Application…" in the menu list, I see "Use other…" though.
>+ <li><strong>Choose a <!-- feature or --> plugin</strong>: If you want a
>+ <!-- feature or a --> plugin in &brandShortName; to handle the type, and one is
>+ available, select it from the menu.</li>
Is it worth including or describing the icon you would see to indicate the option is a plugin?
>+ <li><strong>Save on your computer</strong>: If you want to save the type on
>+ your computer, and it is possible to do so, select <strong>Save
>+ File</strong> from the menu. If you have selected the <strong>Automatically
>+ download files to specified download folder</strong> preference in the
>+ <strong>Downloads</strong> panel, &brandShortName; will save content of the
>+ type on your computer automatically. Otherwise, when you encounter the
>+ type, &brandShortName; will prompt you for a location on your computer to
>+ save it to.</li>
> </ul>
The general format for SM help usually seems to be of the form:
<li><strong>Button/Menu name</strong>: Select/Choose this to...
Other views?
Comment 3•18 years ago
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Comment on attachment 308251 [details] [diff] [review]
merge Firefox 3 support doc to our help
-<p>The Helper Applications preferences panel allows you to control how
- different file types are opened by other applications in
- &brandShortName;:</p>
+<p>The Helper Applications preferences panel lets you choose applications and
+ other handlers to handle different types of content (e.g. PDF documents).
+ It shows you a list of content types and lets you select a handler for each
+ type.</p>
+<p>You can choose a local application to handle any type. For some types, you
+ can also choose a web application to handle the type, choose
+ <!-- a feature (like <a href="glossary.xhtml#live_bookmark">Live Bookmarks</a> for
+ feeds) or --> a <a href="glossary.xhtml#plugin">plugin</a> in &brandShortName; to
+ handle the type, or save the type on your computer.</p>
+<p>To choose a handler for a type, select the type from the list. The current
+ handler for the type will turn into a menu.
I think this is good. Also, nearly everything is said here, but I think it's worth mentioning the search field as well.
This is just an idea, but after "The current handler for the type will turn into a menu." you might be able to get away with some finishing lines mentioning the options and when they're available. Or something like "Depending on the type..."
Comment on attachment 308251 [details] [diff] [review]
merge Firefox 3 support doc to our help
r- for the moment.
Attachment #308251 -
Flags: review?(iann_bugzilla) → review-
Comment 5•18 years ago
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Comment on attachment 308251 [details] [diff] [review]
merge Firefox 3 support doc to our help
See comment #3 for suggestions. I think that'd work.
Attachment #308251 -
Flags: review?(stefanh) → review-
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Comment 6•18 years ago
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Here's the patch with the previous comments addressed.
Attachment #308251 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #319017 -
Flags: review?(iann_bugzilla)
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Updated•18 years ago
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Attachment #319017 -
Flags: review?(stefanh)
Comment on attachment 319017 [details] [diff] [review]
address review comments
>Index: mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/cs_nav_prefs_navigator.xhtml
>===================================================================
>+<p>To choose a handler for a type, select the type from the list. The current
>+ handler for the type will turn into a menu. Open the menu and select the
>+ handler you want to handle the type. Depending on the actual type, a
>+ selection of the foillwoing options is availabe:</p>
"following" and "available"
>+ <li><strong>Choose an application</strong>: To choose a local or web
>+ application to handle a type, select the application from the menu. If you
>+ want a local application that is not in the menu to handle the type, select
>+ <strong>Use other…</strong> from the menu and point
>+ &brandShortName; to its location.</li>
Maybe "browse" instead of "point"
>+ <li><strong>Save on your computer</strong>: If you want to save the type on
>+ your computer, and it is possible to do so, select <strong>Save
perhaps "content of this type onto your computer" or "files" instead of "content"
>+ File</strong> from the menu. If you have selected the <strong>Automatically
>+ download files to specified download folder</strong> preference in the
>+ <strong>Downloads</strong> panel, &brandShortName; will save content of the
"this" instead of "the"?
>+ type on your computer automatically. Otherwise, when you encounter the
"this" instead of "the"?
>+ type, &brandShortName; will prompt you for a location on your computer to
"type of content"?
>+ save it to.</li>
>+<p><strong>Note:</strong> When a plugin is available to handle a type, and you
>+ choose another handler to handle that type, &brandShortName; will only use
>+ your chosen handler when you access the type directly. When the type is
>+ embedded inside a web page, &brandShortName; will continue to use the plugin
"original" or "default" in front of "plugin"?
>+ to handle the type. See also
"it" instead of "the type"?
r=me with those comments addressed/answered.
Attachment #319017 -
Flags: review?(iann_bugzilla) → review+
Comment 8•18 years ago
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Comment on attachment 319017 [details] [diff] [review]
address review comments
Index: mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/cs_nav_prefs_navigator.xhtml
>===================================================================
>RCS file: /cvsroot/mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/cs_nav_prefs_navigator.xhtml,v
>retrieving revision 1.42
>diff -u -7 -p -r1.42 cs_nav_prefs_navigator.xhtml
>--- mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/cs_nav_prefs_navigator.xhtml 15 Dec 2007 04:26:16 -0000 1.42
>+++ mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/cs_nav_prefs_navigator.xhtml 2 May 2008 14:32:16 -0000
>@@ -217,80 +217,54 @@
> <ol>
> <li>Open the <span class="mac">&brandShortName;</span>
> <span class="noMac">Edit</span> menu and choose Preferences.</li>
> <li>Under the Browser category, click Helper Applications. (If no
> subcategories are visible, double-click Browser to expand the list.)</li>
> </ol>
>
>-<p>The Helper Applications preferences panel allows you to control how
>- different file types are opened by other applications in
>- &brandShortName;:</p>
>+<p>The Helper Applications preferences panel lets you choose applications and
>+ other handlers to handle different types of content (e.g. PDF documents).
>+ It shows you a list of content types and lets you select a handler for each
>+ type. You can filter the list using the "Search" field. Entering any text
>+ there will narrow the list to entries containing that text either in the type
>+ description or the currently selected action.</p>
>+<p>You can choose a local application to handle any type. For some types, you
>+ can also choose a web application to handle the type, choose
>+ <!-- a feature (like <a href="glossary.xhtml#live_bookmark">Live Bookmarks</a> for
>+ feeds) or --> a <a href="glossary.xhtml#plugin">plugin</a> in &brandShortName; to
>+ handle the type, or save the type on your computer.</p>
>+<p>To choose a handler for a type, select the type from the list. The current
>+ handler for the type will turn into a menu. Open the menu and select the
>+ handler you want to handle the type. Depending on the actual type, a
>+ selection of the foillwoing options is availabe:</p>
Hmm, I read that as "Choose an application" etc are the choices that you *see* in the menu.
How about something like: "The current handler for the type will turn into a menu. Depending on the type (or "Depending on the actual type"), you can:"
>+ <li><strong>Choose an application</strong>: To choose a local or web
>+ application to handle a type, select the application from the menu. If you
>+ want a local application that is not in the menu to handle the type, select
>+ <strong>Use other…</strong> from the menu and point
>+ &brandShortName; to its location.</li>
>+ <li><strong>Choose a <!-- feature or --> plugin</strong>: If you want a
>+ <!-- feature or a --> plugin in &brandShortName; to handle the type, and one is
>+ available, select it from the menu.</li>
>+ <li><strong>Save on your computer</strong>: If you want to save the type on
>+ your computer, and it is possible to do so, select <strong>Save
>+ File</strong> from the menu. If you have selected the <strong>Automatically
>+ download files to specified download folder</strong> preference in the
>+ <strong>Downloads</strong> panel, &brandShortName; will save content of the
>+ type on your computer automatically. Otherwise, when you encounter the
>+ type, &brandShortName; will prompt you for a location on your computer to
>+ save it to.</li>
Now, my objection here is related to my previous comment (and not all choices are described?), but I'd prefer if this was laid out a bit differently. Combined with the previous suggestion you could write (in a unordered list, as before):
- Choose an application by selecting it from the menu. If you want a local..."
- Choose a plugin by selecting it from the menu
- Save the file on your computer by selecting Save File from the menu. If you have....
- Tell &brandShortName; to always ask ...
I also think that by doing it this way you don't need any bold text on the introduction words on each <li>. Just wrapping the actual terms that exists in the menu (Save File etc) in a <strong> should be enough.
> </ul>
>
>-<p>To learn more about how to handle different file types with
>- &brandShortName;, see
>+<p><strong>Note:</strong> When a plugin is available to handle a type, and you
>+ choose another handler to handle that type, &brandShortName; will only use
>+ your chosen handler when you access the type directly. When the type is
>+ embedded inside a web page, &brandShortName; will continue to use the plugin
>+ to handle the type. See also
> <a href="nav_help.xhtml#plugins_and_downloads">Plugins and Downloads</a>.
The minus is mostly because you haven't updated this page (take a look at the Helper Applications section). Note: I'd remove as much as possible from there. For example, the whole section "For experienced users to fine-tune the Helper Applications preferences:" at line 1257 could be removed (unless IanN have some strong objection against this) - as you might noticed, it's just a burden to have duplicated content ;-)
Attachment #319017 -
Flags: review?(stefanh) → review-
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Comment 9•18 years ago
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This patch should address all review comments, including the request to remove most of the related documentation from nav_help, pointing to the prefs help instead.
Attachment #319017 -
Attachment is obsolete: true
Attachment #326190 -
Flags: review?(iann_bugzilla)
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Updated•18 years ago
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Attachment #326190 -
Flags: review?(stefanh)
Comment 10•18 years ago
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Comment on attachment 326190 [details] [diff] [review]
address more review comments, also include nav_help
>Index: mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/cs_nav_prefs_navigator.xhtml
>===================================================================
>RCS file: /cvsroot/mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/cs_nav_prefs_navigator.xhtml,v
>retrieving revision 1.43
>diff -u -7 -p -r1.43 cs_nav_prefs_navigator.xhtml
>--- mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/cs_nav_prefs_navigator.xhtml 6 May 2008 17:10:04 -0000 1.43
>+++ mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/cs_nav_prefs_navigator.xhtml 22 Jun 2008 18:59:39 -0000
>@@ -217,80 +217,53 @@
> <ol>
> <li>Open the <span class="mac">&brandShortName;</span>
> <span class="noMac">Edit</span> menu and choose Preferences.</li>
> <li>Under the Browser category, click Helper Applications. (If no
> subcategories are visible, double-click Browser to expand the list.)</li>
> </ol>
>
>-<p>The Helper Applications preferences panel allows you to control how
>- different file types are opened by other applications in
>- &brandShortName;:</p>
>+<p>The Helper Applications preferences panel lets you choose applications and
>+ other handlers to handle different types of content (e.g. PDF documents).
>+ It shows you a list of content types and lets you select a handler for each
>+ type. You can filter the list using the "Search" field. Entering any text
>+ there will narrow the list to entries containing that text either in the type
>+ description or the currently selected action.</p>
1) I'd say "To filter the list, use the search field. Text entered in the search field will narrow the list..."
>+<p>You can choose a local application to handle any type. For some types, you
>+ can also choose a web application to handle the type, choose
>+ <!-- a feature (like <a href="glossary.xhtml#live_bookmark">Live Bookmarks</a> for
>+ feeds) or --> a <a href="glossary.xhtml#plugin">plugin</a> in &brandShortName; to
>+ handle the type, or save the type on your computer.</p>
>+<p>To choose a handler for a type, select the type from the list. The current
>+ handler for the type will turn into a menu. Open the menu and select the
>+ handler you want to handle the type. Depending on the actual type, you can:</p>
>
> <ul>
>- <li><strong>Specify how to handle files of each type</strong>:
>- <ul>
>- <li><strong>File types</strong>: Displays the file types that
>- &brandShortName; uses. Select one of them to show the following
>- information:
>- <ul>
>- <li><strong>Description</strong>: Displays a description of the
>- selected file type.</li>
>- <li><strong>Extension(s)</strong>: Displays the file extension(s) of
>- the selected file type.</li>
>- <li><strong>When encountered</strong>: Displays what kind of action
>- that will be taken when &brandShortName; encounters the selected
>- file type.</li>
>- </ul>
>- </li>
>- <li><strong>New Type</strong>: Click this to add a new file type. You see
>- a dialog box:
>- <ul>
>- <li><strong>Mime Type</strong>: Type the Mime type of the file type
>- you want to add.</li>
>- <li><strong>Description</strong>: Type a Descrition of the file
>- type you want to add.</li>
>- <li><strong>Extension</strong>: Type the file extension of the file
>- type you want to add.</li>
>- <li><strong>When a file of this type is encountered</strong>:
>- Select one option from the checkboxes:
>- <ul>
>- <li><strong>Open it using the default application</strong>:
>- Causes the the file to be opened by the default program in
>- your systems settings.</li>
>- <li><strong>Open it with</strong>: Causes the file to be
>- opened by a program you specify. Use the Choose File button
>- to locate the program on your disk</li>
>- <li><strong>Save it to disk</strong>: The file will be saved
>- to disk.</li>
>- </ul>
>- </li>
>- <li><strong>Always ask me when handling files of this
>- type</strong>: Select this to make the Download Dialog box always
>- appear when files of this type are encountered.</li>
>- </ul>
>- </li>
>- <li><strong>Edit</strong>: Click this to change the file-handling
>- information of a selected file type.</li>
>- <li><strong>Remove</strong>: Click this to remove a selected file
>- type.</li>
>- </ul>
>- </li>
>- <li><strong>Plugin Finder Service</strong>:
>- <ul>
>- <li><strong>Always use the Plugin Finder Service (PFS) to get
>- plugins</strong>: Select this to always use the Plugin Finder Service
>- (PFS) whenever &brandShortName; needs a new plugin. If left
>- unselected, the PFS is only used when a plugin location is not
>- provided by the web page that requires the plugin.</li>
>- </ul>
>- </li>
>+ <li>Choose an application by selecting it from the menu. If you want a local
>+ application that is not in the menu to handle the type, select
>+ <strong>Use other…</strong> from the menu and browse &brandShortName; to its
>+ location.</li>
2) I know IanN proposed this, and I'm fine if he persists - after all, he's the expert here. It could be that I'm used to the native filepicker so I feel more that it's not seamonkey that does the browsing. Anyway, I'd rather say "and navigate to its location" instead of "and browse &brandShortName; to its location"
>+ <li>Choose a <!-- feature or --> plugin</strong> by selecting it from the menu.</li>
3) Please fix the xml parsing error here (remove the </strong>)
>+ <li>Save files of this type on your computer by selecting
>+ <strong>Save File</strong> from the menu. If you have selected the
>+ <strong>Automatically download files to specified download folder</strong>
>+ preference in the <strong>Downloads</strong> panel, &brandShortName; will
>+ save content of this type on your computer automatically. Otherwise, when
>+ you encounter this type, &brandShortName; will prompt you for a location on
>+ your computer to save it to.</li>
>+ <li>Tell &brandShortName; to <strong>always ask</strong> what to do when
>+ encountering this type. When you choose this option, a dialog will always be
>+ shown when files of this type are accessed, and you can choose how to handle
>+ that specific file from there.
4) And here (missing </li>)
> </ul>
>
>-<p>To learn more about how to handle different file types with
>- &brandShortName;, see
>+<p><strong>Note:</strong> When a plugin is available to handle a type, and you
>+ choose another handler to handle that type, &brandShortName; will only use
5) How about "choose another handler for that type" instead of "choose another handler to handle that type"?
>+ your chosen handler when you access the type directly. When the type is
>+ embedded inside a web page, &brandShortName; will continue to use the plugin
>+ to handle it. See also
> <a href="nav_help.xhtml#plugins_and_downloads">Plugins and Downloads</a>.
> </p>
>
> <p>[<a href="#navigator_preferences">Return to beginning of section</a>]</p>
>
> <h2 id="location_bar">Browser Preferences - Location Bar</h2>
>
>Index: mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/nav_help.xhtml
>===================================================================
>RCS file: /cvsroot/mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/nav_help.xhtml,v
>retrieving revision 1.74
>diff -u -7 -p -r1.74 nav_help.xhtml
>--- mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/nav_help.xhtml 7 May 2008 19:59:06 -0000 1.74
>+++ mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/nav_help.xhtml 22 Jun 2008 18:59:39 -0000
>@@ -1222,102 +1222,17 @@
> <h2 id="helper_applications">Helper Applications</h2>
>
> <p>When files can not be used within &brandShortName;, you have to option to
6) Please fix the "you have to option" to be "you have the option"
r=me with 1-6 fixed. IanN should have the final call on my wording proposals, though - he's the expert here :-)
Attachment #326190 -
Flags: review?(stefanh) → review+
Comment 11•18 years ago
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(In reply to comment #10)
> (From update of attachment 326190 [details] [diff] [review])
> >Index: mozilla/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/cs_nav_prefs_navigator.xhtml
> >+<p>The Helper Applications preferences panel lets you choose applications and
> >+ other handlers to handle different types of content (e.g. PDF documents).
> >+ It shows you a list of content types and lets you select a handler for each
> >+ type. You can filter the list using the "Search" field. Entering any text
> >+ there will narrow the list to entries containing that text either in the type
> >+ description or the currently selected action.</p>
>
> 1) I'd say "To filter the list, use the search field. Text entered in the
> search field will narrow the list..."
"To filter the list, use the search field. Text entered in there will narrow the list..."
Otherwise I agree with stefanh's comments.
Comment 12•18 years ago
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Comment on attachment 326190 [details] [diff] [review]
address more review comments, also include nav_help
so r=me with items 1-6 address plus my tweak.
Attachment #326190 -
Flags: review?(iann_bugzilla) → review+
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Comment 13•18 years ago
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Checked in with those tweaks, thanks.
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 18 years ago
Resolution: --- → FIXED
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