Closed Bug 51998 Opened 24 years ago Closed 17 years ago

Mozilla Online Update (similar to windowsupdate)

Categories

(Core Graveyard :: Installer: XPInstall Engine, enhancement, P3)

Product:
Core Graveyard
Component:
Installer: XPInstall Engine
Type:
enhancement

Tracking

(Not tracked)

Status:
RESOLVED WONTFIX

People

(Reporter: netdragon, Assigned: dveditz)

Details

This is from a long time ago. I was in the Mozilla channel on IRC, and we were talking about how everyone complains about problems in Netscape 4.X, but hardly anyone upgrades to the latest version. I said something to the effect "I don't mean to be a MS supporter, but I believe Mozilla should have a Mozilla Online Update similiar to Microsoft's Windows Update." Through this, people could download updates/patches to their browser, skins that have been approved by Netscape, etc. It would detect information about your browser and use that to give you a list to choose from. Anyway, people thought it was a good idea - I just forgot to post an RFE, so I'm doing it now.
I think there should be something somewhere on the browser to go to this, and also if there is a newer version of Mozilla out, it should tell the person when they start the program.
cc endico and dmose, the people I know are in charge with Mozilla.org. Not sure who would be exactly responsible should this be realised.
Status: UNCONFIRMED → NEW
Ever confirmed: true
not sure about this one. We have XPInstall functionality already that covers some of what you're requesting. I guess the second part is actually providing the content. This should probably be a newsgroup discussion to open it to a broader audience.
this is bug 1002 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 1002 ***
Status: NEW → RESOLVED
Closed: 24 years ago
Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
I don't believe that this bug should be marked a duplicate. SmartUpdate is not what I was talking about at all. I do not like SmartUpdate because it is an extra program that installs outside of Netscape, and seems to take over when you don't want it to. My idea was more like Microsoft's Windows Update - where you clicked on Active Update in the File Menu, and it brought you to a web page that detected information about your browser, etc. Then it told you want is available that is not already installed such as plugins, etc. You can then check the options you want installed and click update now. Then it would download these updates to Mozilla, and Mozilla would possibly run a DLL to install these patches. It came to light when we were talking on the IRC chat about how Netscape can get people to upgrade more often. That was what I suggested - ie people wouldn't need to download a whole upgrade of their version. They would just choose the patches (such as security fixes, etc) they wanted to install and then it would do it for them. If you are not sure what I mean, then look at Windows Update for Windows 98. I think a reinstatement of Smart Update would be a bad idea. It is totally automated, and I hate automation. I also don't want to download a brand new version when there are only a couple things that I want to change. This Active Update would be a web based/browser based upgrade - not a sepearte program such as Smartupdate. It would use cgi/etc to upgrade Netscape. Therefore, I do not think that it is a duplicate of that bug and therefore I am reopening it.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: DUPLICATE → ---
Even the update at ms is a seperate program in fact. This would use xpinstall for sure, but what we woul dneed is a website with the .xpi/whatever to update the browser. However, this is a future thing.
reassigning.
Assignee: asa → dveditz
Status: REOPENED → NEW
Component: Browser-General → Installer: XPInstall Engine
QA Contact: doronr → jimmylee
See also bug 23117, Ability to check for new versions automatically.
Summary: [RFE] Mozilla Online Update → [RFE] Mozilla Online Update (similar to windowsupdate)
Status: NEW → ASSIGNED
the new notifying thing that's in the prefs. Is that almost doing what we talking about here and in bug 23117 ?
The new feature is more like bug 23117 (although it's just the client implementation, not the mozilla.org service behind it). The feature talked about in this bug is a little broader.
Also, talkback (if possible) should provide links to updates to patch crash issues like given in Windows XP as part of this.
Even if the nightly installer could detect which components need to be updated, it would be helpful.
Summary: [RFE] Mozilla Online Update (similar to windowsupdate) → Mozilla Online Update (similar to windowsupdate)
any movement on this, I would love to see this enable for core system updates, themes, addons and plugins. I actively used the update screen in Nav 4.x and would definitely use it here, thanks.
I agree, we need to see something like this. It will be of huge importance for AOL/Mozilla to have a maintenance/update page.
depend on bug 181262: "Add XML or RDF file that contains the latest current build" we need a place which tells us about the latest available build.
Depends on: 181262
Whatever we throw together for Mozilla.org should be also usable (with changes) for Netscape.com
With a more extension-based browser like Firebird is supposed to be where a lot of features will be extensions, a centralized listing of extensions becomes even more a necessity.
Coming to a Firefox/Thunderbird near you. As far as I know, this won't happen for Seamonkey.
This is fixed for Firefox. If people in the future want it for Seamonkey, then they can file a new bug.
Status: ASSIGNED → RESOLVED
Closed: 24 years ago → 20 years ago
No longer depends on: 181262
Resolution: --- → FIXED
(In reply to comment #19) > This is fixed for Firefox. If people in the future want it for Seamonkey, then > they can file a new bug. This bug is filled for Seamonkey. REOPENing.
Status: RESOLVED → REOPENED
Resolution: FIXED → ---
This bug was filed back when Firefox didn't exist. Alan said that this will not be fixed on Seamonkey. Alan: Could the online interface for Firefox be extended for Seamonkey?
(In reply to comment #21) > This bug was filed back when Firefox didn't exist. Alan said that this will not > be fixed on Seamonkey. So resolution in Seamonkey product should be WONTFIX, not FIXED. Maybe situation will change, if effort to convert Seamonkey to new toolkit will be succesfull.
You forget that I was the one who reported this bug. This bug is about the functionality in XPInstall and the site, not specifically for Seamonkey. If Alan says that the update site could be modified to support Seamonkey,Thunderbird, and all other Mozilla products, this bug is fixed. I repeat, this is not about Mozilla specifically.
Since toolkit extensions can be updated from the extension list, and sm will be switching to toolkit, shouldn't this be marked INVALID?
The xpinstall script engine has been removed from the trunk, bugs in it are obsolete.
Status: REOPENED → RESOLVED
Closed: 20 years ago → 17 years ago
Resolution: --- → WONTFIX
Product: Core → Core Graveyard
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