546380 - New ctrl-j shortcut for download manager clashes with chatzilla's age-old join channel

Status: NEW

(SeaMonkey :: Download & File Handling, defect)

Description

[Sander]

Discussion from IRC:

Sander>	Hrm, Ctrl-J clashes in Chatzilla/SeaMonkey 2 between tools->download manager and irc->join channel
[15:16]	<Sander> Download manager never used to have Ctrl-J set, did it? (At least, it's age old in chatzilla, and I never had trouble before.)
<NeilAway> Sander: no, that's new in 2.0
<NeilAway> Sander: what about CZ-in-Fx? Presuambly you get no Tools menu there?
<Sander> I have ctrl-shift-Y for download manager in Firefox
<Sander> (3.5.7, linux)
<NeilAway> Sander: they must have changed it
<NeilAway> Sander: oh wait, they have a different key for linux
* NeilAway wonders why
<Sander> bug 313572 has some context
<Sander> the patch _removes_ a comment saying "all platforms except Unix, because Ctrl+J is used for web search there"
<Sander> and bug 333855 is where we implemented this
<Sander> both ctrl-j and ctrl-k focus the search box for me in firefox
<KaiRo> Sander: the problem is that there's almost no single key left to use in mailnews, and download manager is also available in there
<KaiRo> this is especially true with Lightning installed
<Mnyromyr> imo, DM doesn't need a shortcut...
<Mnyromyr> or rather, it it's so important, we still have some Meta+number
<Mnyromyr> might also be better for Venkman or Error Console

I believe that since we ship chatzilla by default, we really shouldn't clash with it, and that join channel is a more frequently used menu item than download manager. My proposal is then to change the shortcut for the download manager. Ctrl-Shift-Y might be an option, which would at least retain parity with Firefox on one platform. (Presuming that this doesn't clash with something else in turn (e.g. in lightning), of course.)

Comment 1

[Sander]

Neil points out that ctrl-shift-y is "undo close window". Figures. Maybe we should just go with Mnyromyr's proposal from above?

Comment 2

[Karsten Düsterloh]

Traditionally, CTRL-3 was Message Center in Netscape's Navigator.
CTRL-7 was Netscape's radio homepage, CTRL-8 was unused, CTRL-9 was AIM. 
I'd propose taking CTRL-3 for the Download Manager (it's a somewhat independent main window), although I still think it isn't even important enough to get a shortcut in the first place...

Comment 3

[Justin Wood (:Callek)]

I'm inclined to agree with c#2's choice; IFF we even want to have it as a shortcut.

Comment 4

[gianni]

firefox still doesn't have the ctrl+j shortcut in linux...